[Ansteorra] Group status changes

[L T]

I actually got to see a copy of the report brief (one and 1/2 pages).
(Another filing in regard to the freedom of information act)

I guess the most disappointing thing was that
the conclusion was that we were "mostly harmless"
But that was back when I thought edgy was kewl...


LDeerSlayer



--- On Thu, 7/17/08, Chris Zakes <dontivar at gmail.com> wrote:

> From: Chris Zakes <dontivar at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Ansteorra] Group status changes
> To: "Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA, Inc." <ansteorra at lists.ansteorra.org>
> Date: Thursday, July 17, 2008, 10:10 AM
> At 08:39 AM 7/17/2008, you wrote:
> 
> (snip)
> 
> >As far as the terrorist "thing," I once heard
> that every member of the SCA
> >has a file at the FBI because the SCA is listed as a
> "subversive
> >organization," for no other reason than that our
> organization structure is
> >modeled on a mundane political structure (we've set
> up kingdoms and
> >principalities in the United States).  I've never
> been able to confirm that
> >claim, so I wouldn't say for sure whether it's
> true or not.  Some people
> >just get really uncomfortable when they see something
> unusual, and the
> >kneejerk response is to conclude that something unusual
> automatically means
> >something wrong.
> 
> This came up in "Tournaments Illuminated" some
> years ago. The fellow 
> who wrote the article started out as a newspaper reporter
> who'd been 
> assigned to do a story about Pennsic and ended up joining
> the 
> SCA.  He filed a Freedom of Information Act request to see
> what files 
> the FBI actually had on the SCA.
> 
> The result was (quoting from his comments on the Rialto):
> 
> "As I wrote in TI a few years ago, after filing a
> Freedom of 
> Information request with the FBI, there were, at the time,
> TWO of 
> them - both requests for any information on the SCA from
> military 
> folks to the FBI, and two replies:
> 
> #1 stated that the SCA was an educational not-for-profit
> group with 
> an interest in history,
> 
> #2 said "we have no derogatory information about the
> SCA on file."
> 
> 
> So... it's a nice urban legend, but there's nothing
> factual behind it 
> (unless you're the rabid conspiracy theorist-type who
> just *knows* 
> that the government is always lying to and spying on you.
> <G>)
> 
>          -Tivar Moondragon
> 
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