[Ansteorra] To waterbear, or not to waterbear . . . the long version.

Chris Zakes dontivar at gmail.com
Wed Jun 18 19:36:58 PDT 2008

At 06:58 PM 6/18/2008, you wrote:


>There's also the problem that no matter what disclaimers, procedures 
>and what not we put on any piece of paper, we can STILL be sued. 
>Look at the incident in Pennsylvania. From what I know about it, a 
>child or two was molested at the event by someone who's not even in 
>the SCA, but the company got sued anyway.

I'm afraid that's completely inaccurate. I don't know if the predator 
was an SCA member or not (I'd guess he was) but he spent a couple of 
years in the SCA, primarily doing Children's Activities and gaining 
everybody's trust. He eventually set up a non-SCA "Pages School" and 
started having meetings at his house. Overnight. With no other adults 
present. That's when the abuse happened.

*Two*years*later* one of the mothers decided to sue the SCA, so now 
we're having to pay lawyers and do background checks.

>  Again, the waiver just doesn't seem to be worth the paper it's 
> printed on. Maybe I'm wrong, but it sure looks that way.
>So I propose, if the BoD wants to make sure we don't get sued, that 
>we disband the corporation immediately and that we just go back to 
>our roots and become "that weird group of people swinging sticks at 
>each other in the park."

Uh-huh, and that's where we'd stay, because most sites wouldn't be 
willing to rent their space to some random group of weirdos swinging 
sticks. Having a corporation behind us, with its own liability 
insurance puts us into the category of "eccentric" rather than "weirdo."

         -Tivar Moondragon

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