[Ansteorra] Nordsteorra

Duncan Hepburn duncan at stormypetrel.org
Wed Mar 26 08:07:43 PDT 2008

Having just spent a lengthy vacation in the West, along with attending 
their most recent Crown tournament, I can affirm Master Tivar's points. 
I will also add that there are also some interesting branches here 
called Palatine Baronies (baronies whose noble leaders are determined by 
armored combat) and Marches (akin to our regions, but separated from the 
mainstream parts of the kingdom by distance/geography).

 From my conversations in the West, I gathered that the principalities 
in perpetuity here were established due to having gained a distinct 
regional identity, rather than a desire to secede.

I think that here in Ansteorra, most people think of forming a 
principality as being a secession from the kingdom. It is this split of 
the kingdom that causes strong feelings and harsh words. Another option 
would be as a just recognition of a region's cultural identity and bond 
(which the North does have in spades). The Northern region really is 
it's own distinct part of the kingdom, and has been for a long time 
(decade +). In some places, that is enough to become a principality.

Duncan Hepburn
(who is loving his time in the West, but is ready to come home to Ansteorra)

Chris Zakes wrote:
> At 04:22 PM 3/22/2008, you wrote:
>> It's not out of anger that I say no perpetual principality, it's because I
>> feel that a perpetual principality is like being a 40 year old still living
>> with your parents, there comes a point when you have to grow up and move
>> out.   So instead of perpetually staying in the basement, why not move to
>> the garage apartment and talk about buying the land.  Just a thought.
>> Elizabeth
> That's not necessarily accurate. Consider the West Kingdom. While 
> their principalities of Atenveldt (way back in the Dark Ages) Caid, 
> An Tir and Lochac have split off to become kingdoms, the 
> principalities of Oertha, the Mists and Cynagua haven't. I would 
> guess that Oertha (mundanely Alaska) may lack the population base to 
> become a viable kingdom, but I'm pretty sure that the Mists and 
> Cynagua have plenty of people. Both have been principalities for 
> nearly 30 years, and are content with that position. Nordsteorra (or 
> Cibola, or Seagate, or Lupinia) could easily follow that model 
> without breaking up Ansteorra.
>          -Tivar Moondragon
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