[Ansteorra] Counties and Duchies (was: Nordsteorra)

James Crouchet james at crouchet.com
Wed Mar 26 14:00:22 PDT 2008

I think you may have misunderstood my suggestion. I am speaking of a larger
area than a barony. Something that encompasses at least a few shires. Since
there is no rigid, set in stone SCA corporate sanctioned model for such a
thing, our crown would be free to set it up on an as needed basis, only
where it is needed and for however long it is needed. They could exclude or
include baronies as they felt was best. That -- and any other details --
could vary on a case by case basis. That is the advantage of this sort of
locally designed set up; we do not have to find one model that works for all
cases and keep a rigid structure. Structures can be tailored to the area.

I'll also point out there is no need for any of this to disrupt the regional
administrative structure. A County could even cross regional lines with no
effect on the administration.

I think this would give us some fun opportunities for persona play, as well
as giving a bit more attention from the royal family to areas that do not
currently have much of that attention. This should be a two way street. The
royal and his/her entourage would bring in ideas and customs from the rest
of the kingdom, as well as bringing the local people more recognition of
their efforts and work. At the same time they could bring any interesting
local ideas to the attention of the rest of the kingdom. I would hope they
would also encourage those from other areas to visit their County/Duchy, and
recruit those from their County/Duchy to attend outside events and serve in
the King's wars.

A large part of what they could provide for their people would be a stronger
connection with the rest of the kingdom. The crown could specify what areas
he wants the noble to emphasize, whether it is getting the area ready for
war, bringing in more archers, artists, ws or knights to teach their craft,
or increasing recruiting in that area.

I see nothing in this that requires boo from the BoD. Anyone can put in an
award recommendation and that includes Countesses and Dukes. The crown can
certainly have a noble give various awards in Their name. With email the
process should be fairly painless. There would have to be a little
preplanning in order for the noble to get any physical scrolls and award
regalia he/she would need.

I suspect there are plenty of shires out there who would love to have a
little more personal attention from a count/ess or duke/duchess and whoever
else that noble brings with them. Even a Don is welcomed like royalty in
some some shires, where they are glad just to have a little attention and

Christian Doré

On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 6:57 AM, Robert Fitzmorgan <fitzmorgan at gmail.com>

>   There is already a name for this position.  Baron and Baroness.
> Robert
> On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 2:11 AM, Faelan Caimbeul <faelancaimbeul at gmail.com
> >
> wrote:
> > >I think this raises a number of possibilities including the idea of a
> > County
> > >or Duchy where a particular noble or noble couple is responsible for
> > being
> > >the crown's representative for a time (year? two?) and seeing to the
> > needs
> > >of the populace there.
> >
> > I've thought about the same thing, turning the regions as they now
> stand,
> > into Duchies. This would have the "feel" of a principality (with the
> Dukes
> > being able to act and serve like a Prince in the King's stead) but would
> > eliminate all the hard feelings about the "P" word, since a Duchy isn't
> a
> > recognized entity in the SCA.
> >
> > And if the King were so inclined, he may be able to ceed rights to the
> > Duke to underwrite his own awards. This was done in the Far West (Japan,
> > Korea and Guam), where the Baron there may give AoAs on his own, without
> the
> > Kings prior permission or knowledge (I received one of the first of such
> > AoAs myself). This could solve the logistical problems of Royal travel,
> and
> > probably the other problems as well, without adding another set of
> > tournaments and more "fighter power". ;-)
> >
> > Just a thought . . .
> >
> > Faelan Caimbeul
> > Barony of the Steppes
> > Kingdom of Ansteorra
> > and all around pain in the butt ;-)
> >
> > "They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security,
> > deserve neither liberty or security."
> >
> >                        Ben Franklin
> >
> >
> > >
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