[Ansteorra] Question for gate folks

[Chris Birdwell]

Well, if folks really wanted to take it on you could come up with a form that counted numbers of members and non-members and then ask if they were mmebers or if they forgot their cards. Do that for say, a year, and get a cross section of what the actual numbers were. Just a thought.
 
Yours,
 
Angus Gunn.

--- On Fri, 9/12/08, larkinokane at suddenlink.net <larkinokane at suddenlink.net> wrote:

From: larkinokane at suddenlink.net <larkinokane at suddenlink.net>
Subject: Re: [Ansteorra] Question for gate folks
To: "Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA, Inc." <ansteorra at lists.ansteorra.org>
Date: Friday, September 12, 2008, 11:20 AM

nice hypothesis... now, do we prove it or ignore it? and how will that effect
the possibility that the whole thing is wrong? 
--
Shalom,
Charlie/Larkin
Pray for the Peace of Jerusalem

---- Jean Paul de Sens <jeanpauldesens at gmail.com> wrote: 
> And I disagree.  The errors caused by forgotten cards will probably be
> relatively constant, and can be ignored.
> 
> JP
> 
> 
> On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 6:59 PM, Kingdom Webminister
> <vscribe at ansteorra.org> wrote:
> > I never said *no* data. You did. :)
> >
> > I said, "Counting NMS numbers is just never going to be a good
indicator for
> > a true number of non-members attending an event." And explained
how to get a
> > truer number. :)
> >
> >
> > HE Chiara Francesca
> > Kingdom WebMinister, Ansteorra
> >
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: ansteorra-bounces at lists.ansteorra.org [mailto:ansteorra-
> >> bounces at lists.ansteorra.org] On Behalf Of Jean Paul de Sens
> >> Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 2:54 PM
> >> To: Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA, Inc.
> >> Subject: Re: [Ansteorra] Question for gate folks
> >>
> >> Eh, but it'll still be better than *no* data or just shear
guesswork
> >> for estimating non-member numbers.
> >>
> >> JP
> >>
> >>
> >> On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 4:12 PM, Kingdom Webminister
> >> <vscribe at ansteorra.org> wrote:
> >> > We also have to remember that when we forget our membership
cards we
> >> must register as a non-member.
> >> >
> >> > Thus, these numbers will always reflect a skewed number.
Some will be
> >> those of us that have forgotten our cards, some will be those of
us
> >> that have not renewed in time, some will be folks that choose not
to
> >> purchase memberships, and possibly some of them may actually be
> >> newcomers.
> >> >
> >> > Counting NMS numbers is just never going to be a good
indicator for a
> >> true number of non-members attending an event.
> >> >
> >> > Now, if we had say a column that was for us to put N - for
new, FC -
> >> for forgot card, NM - for non-member. Just a thought.
> >> >
> >> > The only truly sure fire way to know is to actually sit and
compare
> >> all those names to the online seneschal form where they verify
> >> membership of their officers at the corporate site.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > HE Chiara Francesca
> >> > Kingdom WebMinister, Ansteorra
> >> >
> >> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> >> From: ansteorra-bounces at lists.ansteorra.org
[mailto:ansteorra-
> >> >> bounces at lists.ansteorra.org] On Behalf Of Kaitlyn
Mckenna
> >> >> Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 12:58 PM
> >> >> To: Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA, Inc.
> >> >> Subject: Re: [Ansteorra] Question for gate folks
> >> >>
> >> >> When I was compiling the NMS numbers while Kingdom
Exchequer, pretty
> >> >> consistently across all groups was 33% non members per
event.
> >> >>
> >> >> --kaitlyn
> >> >>
> >> >> On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 2:56 PM, Chris Zakes
<dontivar at gmail.com>
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> > Recently on another list, someone claimed that
there are more non-
> >> >> members
> >> >> > at SCA events than paid members. That seemed kind
of unlikely to
> >> me.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > So, for those folks who work the gate, and see
who's coming in,
> >> >> what's your
> >> >> > reaction to this. *Do* we have more non-members
than members
> >> >> attending?
> >> >> >
> >> >> >        -Tivar Moondragon
> >> >> >
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