On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 08:54, Jay Rudin <rudin at ev1.net> wrote: > Or grab a Don or cadet at an event (after the tourney) and ask. Bring > beer. Unless the Don is Don Tivar, who will be happy to talk your ear off on the subject. Instead of beer, bring lemonade or apple cider. :) Aethelyan Moondragon Bryn Gwlad