[Ansteorra] Event Site Opinion (WAS: the Three Queens website)

[Rose & Chad]

If that is all the designer know how to do, yes, I believe that is a valid choice. :)

We are all volunteers here and I know quite a few scadians who have trouble checking their e-mail, much less putting together a website. I don't find it even remotely hard to believe that there are entire Baronies of people who don't know how to design web sites. If there weren't any Baronies like that, we wouldn't be having this problem right now.

So the first question is: Is no site at all better than a limited site? With no site, nobody gets any info. :)

The next question is: What is the proper response when faced with such a site? I think the right answer is to offer to make the site accessible.


R the O

---------------------------------------------------------------------- Judge me if you want. We are all going to die. I intend to deserve it.


--- On Wed, 6/24/09, Jennifer Jackson <genevria at cox.net> wrote:

> From: Jennifer Jackson <genevria at cox.net>
> Subject: Re: [Ansteorra] Event Site Opinion (WAS: the Three Queens website)
> To: "Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA, Inc." <ansteorra at lists.ansteorra.org>
> Date: Wednesday, June 24, 2009, 5:47 AM
> Rose,
> 
> I believe the point here is that for those who can not
> access the graphics, you are only giving the choice of none
> at all.  Did you miss that, or do you just not think it
> is a valid point?
> 
> 
> Genevria
> with a
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rose & Chad" <love at roseandchad.net>
> To: " Inc.Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA" <ansteorra at lists.ansteorra.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 3:26 AM
> Subject: [Ansteorra] Event Site Opinion (WAS: the Three
> Queens website)
> 
> 
> 
> I think that websites should be as accommodating as
> possible... Keeping in mind that sometimes throwing up the
> event flyer is about all they are able to do. It's all well
> and good to want and expect a really informative and
> convenient website but if there's not anyone who knows how
> to create one, it's just not going to happen.
> 
> I have seen that the BoD does encourage compliant websites,
> but I don't see how they can enforce that as a rule without
> simply forcing quite a few sites down with no expectation of
> putting them back up. If I have to choose between a mediocre
> website and no website at all, I'll take the mediocre,
> please. :)
> 
> I feel that the only way that I can say anything about
> wanting better websites is to offer to create them myself,
> which I have done for the last three or four events that my
> Barony has had, and would be happy to do for anyone else who
> asked. (I really mean that.)
> 
> I also feel that we have come along way with information
> tech in the last few years, as I have seen more and more
> event websites instead of the just the ad and a few list
> announcement. I certainly wouldn't want to discourage any
> effort by boycotting events with mediocre sites, any more
> than I would boycott an event with a mediocre event ad.
> (Which, sadly, I see alot of.)
> 
> In fact, I would like to thank every autocrat and/or
> event-website-o-crat who went the extra mile and threw
> something up on the Internet at all, even if it was just the
> event flyer. (Like Lord Garreth Silverthane, who
> consistently creates terrific sites for various events,
> happenings, and groups in Ansteorra.)
> 
> Anyway, that's just my nickel. (It was two cents, but
> inflation, you know...)
> 
> 
> Rose the Obnoxious
> 
> 
> 
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> Judge me if you want. We are all going to die. I intend to
> deserve it.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- On Wed, 6/24/09, mikea <mikea at mikea.ath.cx>
> wrote:
> 
> > From: mikea <mikea at mikea.ath.cx>
> > Subject: Re: [Ansteorra] ISO the Three Queens website
> > To: "Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA, Inc." <ansteorra at lists.ansteorra.org>
> > Date: Wednesday, June 24, 2009, 2:33 AM
> > On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 12:35:43AM
> > -0500, Haraldr Bassi wrote:
> > > That would be because there is no text to see.
> It's
> > nothing but graphics.
> > > So anyone who doesn't show all images by default
> will
> > see nothing. Any
> > > visually impaired person who browses the net
> using a
> > screen reader is just
> > > plain outta luck.
> > >
> > > Please.... please.... everyone who is designing
> event
> > websites, stop using
> > > nothing but graphic images for your event web
> site. We
> > can't cut and paste,
> > > we can't even print things well. It's getting to
> the
> > point where I am
> > > likely to start ignoring/boycotting any event
> whose
> > website is nothing but
> > > graphics.
> > 
> > Ditto. I can see very well indeed now, but have many
> > friends who can't.
> > It is entirely probable that at some point in time I
> will
> > be in their
> > boat.
> > 
> > Graphics-only websites, however beautiful and
> attractive to
> > the sighted,
> > are actively unfriendly to the blind, and fail to
> comply
> > with the
> > Americans with Disabilities Act, which the BoD has
> said the
> > Society
> > *will* comply with.
> > 
> > -- Mike Andrews
> > / Michael Fenwick Barony of
> > Namron, Ansteorra
> > mikea at mikea.ath.cx
> > / Amateur Extra radio operator W5EGO
> > Tired old music Laurel; Chirurgeon; SCAdian since AS
> XI
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