[Ansteorra] armors list

[Mike Gideon]

Although the likelihood of being struck may be less, you will be struck as a Combat Archer.
The same rules of physics apply.

Michel mac Donnchaid




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From: Michelle Dodd <lygabrielerdb at hotmail.com>
To: Ansteorra <ansteorra at lists.ansteorra.org>
Sent: Thursday, March 5, 2009 12:01:31 AM
Subject: Re: [Ansteorra] armors list


I can understand having the heavier helms for combat but what about for combat archery? It is my understanding that archers are required to wear full armor including helms when in combat situations i.e.; not target archery. With the likelihood of being struck being less, would the lighter weight helm be sufficient?



Ly Gabriele


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> From: morganbuchanan at hotmail.com
> To: ansteorra at lists.ansteorra.org
> Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 16:16:48 -0600
> Subject: Re: [Ansteorra] armors list
> 
> Just to clarify this point, which is excellent...
> 
> Modern manufacturers of sheet steel in the US don't market their product using the antiquated gauge scale. However, as Iaen states, these gauges have a modern range.
> 
> When armorers who make helms for the SCA advertise their products as being 16 gauge, they are generally telling you that the helm is SCA minimum, but DOES meet that minimum. I would not hesitate to specifically ask any  armorer if a helm they're selling is indeed made from at least .0625 rather than the thinner material.
> 
> However, as someone else alluded to, I really wouldn't recommend a minimum thickness helm. Not JUST to a new fighter, but to any fighter. Minimum thickness helms, unless manufactured from much more expensive-to-produce spring steel, won't last very long. I've seen a new minimum helm get a nice crease from a single sword shot, not an excessive one but stout to be certain, in the very FIRST practice it was worn. All other factors aside, the equipment simply may have a relatively short career if it's worn by anyone who actually gets hit regularly. Certain construction methods can invalidate the statements I've made about equipment life, but generally speaking, beginner equipment won't have employed those design elements. The average fighter is better served by acquiring a helm made from 14 and 12 gauge range steel, but for the longevity of the equipment as well as for making one's head a heavier object at rest which aids in the avoidance of concussion.
 There is a law of dimini
shing return factor here, where when a helm gets overly heavy the weight will cause neck and back issues - but will indeed keep one from getting concussed. I think that for the average fighter, when a helm starts being constructed entirely out of 12, or a mix 
of 12 and 10 gauge steel (which is getting really close to 1/4" thick) you're likely talking about a helm that's far too heavy. Some people can  handle them tho. I'm sure not one of them!
> 
> Hope this is found helpful.
> 
> Morgan
> 
>
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