[Ansteorra] cloved fruit

[love at roseandchad.net]

Are we discussing the same practice here? What's being described doesn't seem to match my experiences. Let me outline what I have seen my entire life.

Somebody offers me a cloven fruit. If I accept it, I can put it where ever I like, and the giver is supposed to retrieve it.

I can even choose to remove the clove and place it on the back of my hand, and receive a rather chaste kiss on my hand.

I can hide it in between my lips, on my tongue, or even swallow it. Indeed, there are a myriad of ways to accept a cloven fruit to indicate a variety of meanings, from a token of friendship and courtly love to a token of, well... Nightly love, shall we say?

Is this game played differently outside of the Northern Region?

Rose the Obnoxious


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-----Original Message-----
From: Diane Rudin <serena1570 at yahoo.com>
Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2009 14:42:58 
To: Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA, Inc.<ansteorra at lists.ansteorra.org>
Subject: Re: [Ansteorra] cloved fruit

Muriel filia Donaldi de Skia wrote:

"To me, to be presented with cloved fruit would be accepting that
persons offer of trust/friendship/love/commitment, whatever the time
and situation dictates.  It is such a shame that it is not done and
given with what I believe to be the proper respect. 

"Perhaps we can start it up again?"

What you describe is one interpretation of cloved fruit. The problem was and remains that there was no agreement as to what was intended.  So, if you took it believing it was for a friendship-token hug or peck on the cheek, you might end up being the unwilling participant in a very overzealous kiss, because a LOT of people thought that was what it was about -- vigorous "French" kissing.  There was no graceful way to indicate in advance of accepting the fruit what your expectations were.  It got to the point where I dreaded seeing the things at events, and did my level best to dispose of any I ran across.

There are other ways of indicating trust, friendship, love, and commitment, that aren't as hotly disputed in their intent.


--Serena



      
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