[Ansteorra] cloved fruit

[sonja.crocker at gmail.com]

In the game I played,there was a way to indicate the level of affection desired. If the receiver took the clove out with the hand' it indicated that she wanted a kiss on the hand. If the receiver took it out with the lips' a peck on the lips (or cheek). If taken out with the teeth, then a more passionate kiss was indicated. But these were the rules in Atlantia in the early 1990's.

Cait O'Hara

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From:  Diane Rudin <serena1570 at yahoo.com>
Subj:  Re: [Ansteorra] cloved fruit
Date:  Sun Oct 25, 2009 4:42 pm
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To:  "Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA, Inc." <ansteorra at lists.ansteorra.org>

Muriel filia Donaldi de Skia wrote:

"To me, to be presented with cloved fruit would be accepting that
persons offer of trust/friendship/love/commitment, whatever the time
and situation dictates.  It is such a shame that it is not done and
given with what I believe to be the proper respect. 

"Perhaps we can start it up again?"

What you describe is one interpretation of cloved fruit. The problem was and remains that there was no agreement as to what was intended.  So, if you took it believing it was for a friendship-token hug or peck on the cheek, you might end up being the unwilling participant in a very overzealous kiss, because a LOT of people thought that was what it was about -- vigorous "French" kissing.  There was no graceful way to indicate in advance of accepting the fruit what your expectations were.  It got to the point where I dreaded seeing the things at events, and did my level best to dispose of any I ran across.

There are other ways of indicating trust, friendship, love, and commitment, that aren't as hotly disputed in their intent.


--Serena



      
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