[Ansteorra] cloved fruit

[Miss M Brow]

My understanding of the ritual was that the recipient was the one who decided what form of affection was used, not the giver.  It is a pity that you had a different experience.  Rua
 
> Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2009 14:42:58 -0700
> From: serena1570 at yahoo.com
> To: ansteorra at lists.ansteorra.org
> Subject: Re: [Ansteorra] cloved fruit
> 
> Muriel filia Donaldi de Skia wrote:
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> "To me, to be presented with cloved fruit would be accepting that
> persons offer of trust/friendship/love/commitment, whatever the time
> and situation dictates. It is such a shame that it is not done and
> given with what I believe to be the proper respect. 
> 
> "Perhaps we can start it up again?"
> 
> What you describe is one interpretation of cloved fruit. The problem was and remains that there was no agreement as to what was intended. So, if you took it believing it was for a friendship-token hug or peck on the cheek, you might end up being the unwilling participant in a very overzealous kiss, because a LOT of people thought that was what it was about -- vigorous "French" kissing. There was no graceful way to indicate in advance of accepting the fruit what your expectations were. It got to the point where I dreaded seeing the things at events, and did my level best to dispose of any I ran across.
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> There are other ways of indicating trust, friendship, love, and commitment, that aren't as hotly disputed in their intent.
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> --Serena
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