[Ansteorra] represent honor in banners

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This must be the reason we see so little of Duke Lloyd! As the 7th Lion, and with a snake as part of his devise, he must be at constant odds with himself!
YIS
Lasguaard


Subject: Re: [Ansteorra] represent honor in banners


On Sat, 17 Apr 2010, Sandra Geil <alexsandraeryn at yahoo.com> wrote: 
> though in heraldry the lion is for bravery... 
 
Did you miss the couple of messages from yesterday, about how "X means 
Y in heraldry" is in most cases false? 
<http://lists.ansteorra.org/pipermail/ansteorra-ansteorra.org/2010-April/069614.html> 
<http://lists.ansteorra.org/pipermail/ansteorra-ansteorra.org/2010-April/069616.html> 
Note particularly Emma's note from Dennys's _The Heraldic Imagination_ 
about the "meaning" of "swan". That is part of an answer to Willow's 
comment. 
 
The Aberdeen Bestiary <http://www.abdn.ac.uk/bestiary/translat/7r.hti> 
calls the lion the king of the beasts, and ascribes to it various 
virtues and properties (that have only a vague relationship to real 
lions). But I don't see anything specific about bravery, and in fact 
it says "The lion fears the cock, especially the white one. King of 
the beasts, it is tormented by the tiny sting of the scorpion and is 
killed by the venom of the snake." 
 
Danihel Lindum 
-- Tim McDaniel, tmcd at panix.com 
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