[Ansteorra] General event question

ld.blackmoon ld.blackmoon at cox.net
Tue Aug 17 02:06:15 PDT 2010


>  This is often the case with bigger events where the logistics of severing 
> a large number of people gets too difficult.  <
  does the crown know the autocrats are severing a large number of people at 
those events ??
it sounds rather messy : )
( sorry i been up too long couldn't resist )
Be Safe , Be Happy, Have Fun
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Stefan li Rous" <StefanliRous at austin.rr.com>
To: "Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA, Inc." <ansteorra at lists.ansteorra.org>
Cc: "Will Manning" <winther.der.truwe at gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 1:43 AM
Subject: Re: [Ansteorra] General event question

Greetings Herr Winther,

Let me throw in my couple of cents here, and some pointers to some ideas and 

On Aug 16, 2010, at 10:26 PM, Will Manning wrote:

> How big of factor is offering feast at an event? Would that be the 
> deciding
> factor whether you came or not?

There are a number of events I attend that don't have feasts. This is often 
the case with bigger events where the logistics of severing a large number 
of people gets too difficult. Steppes Warlord, or really any event at 
Canton, and Gulf Wars and Pennsic come to mind.

> If the sponsoring group had a tavern
> instead, would that be a better idea? Meal ticket options would be offered
> as well.

Take a look at this file in the ENTERTAINMENT section of the Florilegium for 
some ideas and comments about SCA taverns (as well as period ones)
taverns-msg (52K) 5/25/06 SCA and period taverns.

Some of this file in the FEAST-REVIEWS section might also be of use:
Tavern-Feast-art (14K) 1/13/99 An all-day tavern-style feast.

> Would your prefer to know what you are being served,

Headcooks should definitely make their menu available ahead of time, so that 
people can decide whether to make other arrangements or not. If it is just 
going to be a modern foods dinner, it is quite possible that I won't stay 
for it or will plan on eating something in my camp or going into town.

<<< As someone who has strict dietary restrictions, the presence or lack of
feast plays no part in my decision to attend an event.  I almost never do
feast at an event.  When I did do feasts, the lack of one never stopped me
from attending an event, but some groups feasts were so consistently
wonderful that I always attended their events if at all possible.

Robert >>>

It is probably best not to try to make special dishes for folks with 
allergies, many folks will simply not show up and won't tell you ahead of 
time that they aren't going to show up after all. On the otherhand, menus 
should be varied enough without having the same ingredient in most of the 
dishes so that folks can still get a full meal even if they have to skip 
some dishes. At the same time, this means you must publish your ingredient 
lists ahead of time and if you make any changes to this, because of a great 
sale price on something for instance, make sure these changes are made clear 
in the ingredients list.  For more on publishing ingredient lists, see this 
file in the FEASTS section of the Florilegium:

ingred-lists-msg (18K) 4/ 6/07 Posting ingredient lists at SCA feasts.

> and it being a great meal, or something period.

I definitely prefer period-type meals.

> What if there was a cooking competition for
> period recipes, and a regular good ol meal for feast, using the word 
> regular
> loosely.

Why does it have to be a competition? I have wondered if you couldn't do two 
types of feasts at an event. One being period in style and food and one 
simply being a picnic style dinner. When I brought this up on the SCA-Cooks 
list, the problem has been logistics. There is usually only one kitchen 
available. Even trying to do a Crown luncheon can be difficult because the 
main feast is already being done in the kitchen.

<<< I will not order feast without seeing a menu. Knowing the
reputation of the cook may influence my decision. I would not
participate in a feast that was the result of a cooking competition.
Too much uncertainty in both knowledge in advance of the offerings and
possible food safety issues.

~Eve >>>

I agree with Eve on this. In addition, most cooking competitions don't 
produce enough food to base a feast around. They can have their place, but 
not as a feast replacement. See some of the files in the CELEBRATIONS AND 
EVENTS section of the Florilegium for a number of comments on various types 
of cooking contests and some reviews of various ones, especially 
siege-cooking contests.

> My question I guess would be what kind of food arrangement, if any
> would most prefer. Would feast alone ever be the only reason you went to 
> an
> event?

It certainly could be. If someone were to put on a feast like these below, I 
would go just for the feast. I would also expect to pay much more than the 
usual SCA feast amount as well.  But it would be worth it.

Perf-P-Feast-msg (40K) 11/28/09 "Perfectly Period Feast" cooked by Mistress 
Crystal of the Westermark. A medieval feast, with atmosphere, 'done right'.

Good-Fd-Feast-art (26K) 3/30/98 Description of a fancy feast done in Lochac.

> All comments welcome and desired, hit me with it please!!!!!!

If you would like to read some reviews of feasts cooked across the Known 
World, see the files in the FEAST-REVieWS section of the Florilegium. These 
often include recipes and they span a wide variety of period cultures. There 
are also a number of files with useful ideas and hints on cooking good 
feasts in the FEASTS section.

For more information and useful comments on cooking feasts, I would also 
highly recommend joining the SCA-Cooks list. Hosted on the Ansteorra server, 
but with all levels of folks from those just beginning to cook, much less 
cooking medieval foods, to folks that have cooked numerous SCA feasts to 
those who are published period cooking scholars and authors to professional 
chefs, from all over the Known World.  It's been slow there, but now that 
folks are getting back from Pennsic things should pick up again.

> Herr Winther der Trüwe
> Seneschal Adlersruhe


THLord Stefan li Rous    Barony of Bryn Gwlad    Kingdom of Ansteorra
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