[Ansteorra] Can someone confirm/deny for me?

Jessica Smith jasiwolf at gmail.com
Wed Aug 18 09:58:43 PDT 2010

Hi guys!
A lady from Antir posted a video of her singing her version of this song - I
am only posting to let you know that I forwarded her our discussion on this
The link is here - looks like people have already commented. :)


I think its an awesome idea to teach songs through youtube. Just wish she
had gotten more facts right.....

Lady Vy

On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 11:46 AM, SoldierGrrrl <soldier.grrrl at gmail.com>wrote:

> On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 11:43 AM, mikea <mikea at mikea.ath.cx> wrote:
> > Master Ivar is a friend of 30 years' standing, and I support his choice
> > to pass his song only in oral tradition, but I have wondered for a long
> > time if he considered that:
> >
> > o       Different people learn best by different routes; some are
> auditory
> >        learners, some kinesthetic, some visual. Some are mixed, or learn
> >        certain categories best in one way, but others in another. As a
> >        modest example, I advance myself: auditory when it comes to song
> >        tunes, but visual for memorizing words.
> >
> > o       A great many things from the Middle Ages and later have been lost
> >        because "everyone knew them", and so they "didn't need to be
> written
> >        down". Gerald of Wales wrote that in England, everyone in the
> fields
> >        was singing, frequently rounds or in harmony. Nobody wrote most of
> >        those songs down, and they've been lost because oral transmission
> >        failed. Similarly, nobody now knows how to dance the estampie, a
> >        dance form for which we have loads of good music, because oral
> >        transmission failed and nobody wrote the steps down.
> >
> > Oral transmission is _great_ so long as the material is transmitted, but
> > men die. The invention and use of writing has permitted _RELIABLE_
> > preservation of the knowledge of men past their deaths, something we
> > have and (as far as I know, anyway) other animals don't.
> >
> > --
> > Mike Andrews        /   Michael Fenwick    Barony of Namron, Ansteorra
> Also, I would love to learn it, but have never actually heard it.
> Having it written down would at least allow me to teach it to myself,
> or have my Godmother help me learn it.
> Helene Dalassene
> Hellsgate
> --
> I've asked forgiveness from the Lord, now take my soul, and bring my sword.
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