[Ansteorra] Can someone confirm/deny for me?

Jeffrey Clark jmclark85 at gmail.com
Thu Aug 19 13:42:59 PDT 2010

Later neumatic and then black and white mensural notations are a little more
decipherable, however earlier neumatic and pre-neumatic notations were just
short-hand mnemonics. Then again, most of the pre-white mensural notations
are subject to a great deal of variance based on time and region and the
person writing them. There still is not all that much consensus between
scholars on what much of it really means in terms of performance practice;
some scholars have well-known/well-practiced ideas, but they are still

-AS Zorzi

On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 8:24 AM, mikea <mikea at mikea.ath.cx> wrote:

> (top-posted to keep my response near to that it relates to)
> There were multiple notations employed, IIRC. I think I have at least
> two moderately-thick books on medieval music notation. Certainly one
> notation (rather late) used note heads and stems rather like those in
> modern Western conventional notation, but with radically different
> conventions as regards mensuration; there also were various forms of
> neumes. I'm at work, and the books are at home, which means I need to
> expand on this post once I'm within reach of the materials.
> On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 10:42:58PM -0500, Jeffrey Clark wrote:
> > Even music notation of the time was really a type of short-hand, and
> > scholars are still debating what most of it means.
> >
> > On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 10:40 PM, Richard Culver <rbculver at sbcglobal.net
> >wrote:
> >
> > > Actually Dark Ages is a bit of a historian bigotry, particularly when
> > > matters shift away from Roman and/or Greek tradition.  The fact of the
> > > matter is there was significant amount of writing and learning going on
> in
> > > the so-called Dark Ages; it just was in places like Merovingian France,
> > > Northumbria in English, Utrecht in the Netherlands, and other such
> places.
> [remainder of L. Wihtri's post elided]
> > > Gódspéde,
> > > Wihtric
> Fun thread! Thanks to all who contribute to it.
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