[Ansteorra] Legasaltive morality.
rose_welch at yahoo.com
rose_welch at yahoo.com
Tue Nov 2 14:05:56 PDT 2010
It's not just means that keep people from participating in the Period Parade. You also have to care about those aspects of history.
For instance, my love lies in in the paper arts and sciences. I don't care about costuming (What's the point of nice garb, if you're just going to get paint on it, anyway?), I think period tents are neat but more money that I care to spend (Do you know how much gold foil and quality goauche I can get for the cost of one French bell?), and my nylon camp chair is _comfortable_, so why should I have to spend time and money and effort making sure that my clothing, tent, and chairs are perfect?
I don't mind making an attempt - and I sit in the back at court and feast, and keep my dome tent in areas with other dome tents - but I'm not going to go crazy over it, either.
I will say that anyone who wants me to cover my nylon chair is welcome to give me a cover, and I'll use it. Anyone who doesn't like my garb can make me new garb. If it's comfortable and I like it, I'll wear it. And so on...
In other words, if you want me to more perfectly recreate a historical artist, then you are going to have to more perfectly recreate a historical patron. :D
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From: Joseph Percer <jpercer at gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [Ansteorra] Legasaltive morality.
While I agree with a large amount of what Sir Caladin has said, I
think that perhaps
we should only restrict the period requirement to grant level awards
and higher. I would expect
a centurion or Knight to have period armor, go so far as to even
require it. But the newer fighter
who is more likely to earn a Falcon or Talon if anything, this should
perhaps just be encouraged rather
than made a requirement.
Other than the above, I'm hesitant to tell someone they can't get on
the list field because I don't like what
their armor looks like. Not everybody has an endless budget. If we
start going down this road, how long before
we start banning dome tents?
On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 3:03 PM, Eric W. Brown <Brown.EricW at jobcorps.org> wrote:
> Re: Atlantias "Look Period Dammit" rule:
> In short: I'm against it. Legislating that kind of stuff bad, Fixing it your self good.
> < Caladin blunt speak on , If you can't handle blunt straightforward brutally honest speech, exit this message now>
> Also I think some plastic looks "okay" whole others looks terrible, so I have separate issues with
> The specific wording of the Atlantian law. I think this approach is wrong on many levels.
> We should attack the Low Hanging fruit, work on the worst offenders first. Not set a bar that will drive folks out.
> In summation here is what I think the problem is:
> 1. We need to keep the barrier to entry as low as possible for newcomers, this is critical to growing our game.
> 2. BUT We need to encourage new comers to get out of "Asstastic" armor as soon as they can.
> 3. We need to STRONGLY encourage older fighters to hide or replace ugly blatantly & modern armor.
> My solution All Carrot, no Stick:
> 1. Each of you that think legislating this is a good idea, Pick the worst most offensive fighter you know.
> And make him garb and armor that can be hidden. Hidden armor is good armor, you can get all the sport effectiveness you want and still look Seksay! You get what you want, he gets what he wants, win win. If you are not_already_ doing this, then you don't care enough about the issue for you opinion to be counted IMHO, and you should be ignored henceforth.
> 2. Legislate to make Fighting awards have a certain minimum understood Period kit look. If you can't be a centurion
> If you have exposed Plastic in any color but black, Or as Spun Dome Helmet. those 5 year in fighters with Blue Pickle barrel legs will magically become motivated to get rid of them or cover them up. IF they don't' care about getting a Sable Falcon or a Talon, then we can apply rule # 1. A simple as adding to the Charters "a fighter cannot get this award if they have blatantly modern kit" Would do an amazing amount of good.
> <Blunt speak off>
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