[Ansteorra] Why aren't we doing this?

Doug Copley doug.copley at gmail.com
Thu Nov 4 04:45:08 PDT 2010

I guess I have never had a problem with some flashes and some pictures 
but as with anything like that it can be over-done and ruin it for so 
many. A picture or 2 from an angle that shows faces and is something 
that is preserved and shared for FREE with everyone that wants to have 
it is one thing but having several people trying to run around to the 
sides and behind and flashing pictures becomes a problem and detracts 
from the whole experience and should not be done regardless of the activity.

I have a good friend that at the last Coronation I lost track of him and 
could not see him. I thought for a little bit about where he would be 
and then I looked up in the Balcony and sure enough, there he was 
quietly doing one of the things he loves and making due with what he 
could and no one ever knew he was there unless they looked up to see 
him. He also took some wonderful photos before and after the ceremony.


On 11/4/2010 6:30 AM, Jay Rudin wrote:
> There are moments when it can become real --
> a late-night bardic circle,
> a moving speech by the King,
> watching a tourney,
> a moving ceremony.
> All such moments can be broken with the intrusion of something modern.  The bardic circle stops being real when somebody performs the Beatles.
> The speech stops being real if the King mentions his computer.
> The tourney stops being real when we start talking about the latest movie.
> And the ceremony stops being real when the flash goes off.
> In all cases, the medieval world we are creating breaks down, and we are suddenly thrown back into the 21st century.  It's like saying "It's only a model," when the knights approach Camelot.  Suddenly the great shining castle on the hill ceases to be a beacon of chivalry and honor.  On second thought, let's not go to Camelot -- it is a silly place."
> Of course, this only matters to those people who were caught up in the dream at that moment.  If the bardic circle is just late night fun entertainment, why not do a fun modern song?
> If the speech is just a spirit rally, why not mention the modern items?
> If the tourney is just hitting people with sticks, the movie isn't a problem.
> And if the ceremony is just a congratulations for working hard, then the flash pictures are great souvenirs.
> Everybody has times when they are just playing, and most of us have times when it's real.  As Count Jan once said, "You can play the dream, or you can play the club, or you can play the joke.  And we all do all three.  The real arguments aren't between the people who always play the dream and people who always play the joke, but between people playing the dream right now vs. people playing the club right now (or dream / joke or club / joke).
> The people taking pictures are playing the club right now.  The people caught up in the ceremony are playing the dream right now.  They will not agree about the best thing to do, because they aren't playing the same game.
> Robin of Gilwell / Jay Rudin

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