[Ansteorra] Ansteorra Digest, Vol 55, Issue 5
colsith at gmail.com
Fri Nov 5 13:07:23 PDT 2010
Just to throw a couple more variations as to why the cut off date is at
I started playing in the SCA in Cynagua back in the early 90s. Since
I have been given 2 reasons ever that actually make sense as to why the
off date is 1600. Neither is historical. They were given by two people
have been around the SCA either from the very first backyard party or
near close to it. Remember, back then, we were not a historical group.
This was a bunch of strange weirdos running around Northern California in
the late 60s making this up as they went along.
Reason #1) Given to me by Fredrick of Hollander. Who was one of the
in that backyard back in 1966. I met him at one of my first events and
asked him why 1600? He laughed, pulled out a cigarette and told me that
because the Elizabethans smoked cheroots, 1600 was a good round number
was as early as they could go and still have a legitimate reason to smoke
cigarettes at events.
Reason #2) Given to me by Duke Paul of Beletrix, who has now been a
for close to 40 years. I asked him about the cut off date at a Pennsic
Duncan and Larissa were on the throne. According to him, all the guys
were the only fighters back then) all wanted the cut off date to be 1400,
because they all wanted to do the High Middle Ages tourney stuff. All
women wanted to be able to wear the pretty Elizabethan dresses. Guess
won that argument? ~grin~
And yes, these two reasons are the only ones I have ever heard that
make sense given the conditions under which the decision was probably
Again, remember, back then the SCA was not the gigantic "Historical"
it is now. It was a bunch of folks hanging out playing a game started by
bunch of hippies in Berkeley in the mid 60s. There were not always
reasons for why things ended up the way they did.
Don Avery Shaw
Baron, Bryn Gwlad
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