[Ansteorra] Flails (was: Questions regarding slings & Tavern Fights)

[Chris Baran]

Greetings,
 
There was a page on the Marshal's portion of the kingdom web page.  I had included written instructions as well as a photos of each step in construction.  Perhaps Count JP still retains this information somewhere.  I believe I had introduced four distinct versions of the weapon.
 
Count Romanius 
 

> From: StefanliRous at austin.rr.com
> To: ansteorra at lists.ansteorra.org
> Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2011 16:50:35 -0500
> Subject: Re: [Ansteorra] Flails (was: Questions regarding slings & Tavern Fights)
> 
> Is there a paper on this particular "SCA" flail? Directions on 
> building one? Perhaps the actual submission paper, if there was one?
> Any videos of it being used? or diagrams or photos of this flail?
> 
> Even though it didn't get approved (this time), it would be 
> instructive to have such material and perhaps someone can figure out 
> how to make it acceptable for SCA use or use this as a starting point 
> in the future. It also has usefulness as a bit of SCA history.
> 
> I think those that are more interested in medieval weapons and 
> fighting than simply winning in the SCA sport of combat might be 
> interested in this. It sounds like it would affect some fighting 
> styles, just as allowing shots below the knee would.
> 
> I would be interested in any of these items for inclusion in the 
> COMBAT section of the Florilegium.
> 
> Thanks,
> Stefan
> 
> On Jul 30, 2011, at 9:05 AM, John Reuter wrote:
> 
> > I liked it. The period weapon that was actually used in war and in 
> > lists was a whole different style of fight. Even though shield work 
> > did slow it down, the head could still impact the fighter if the 
> > shield was held to close to the body. The flail was more versatile 
> > than people gave it credit for. I want to make two more like Count 
> > Romanius' just to have an equal weapon for opponents to play with. 
> > Unofficially that is. I wish Ansteorra could have it as a weapon. 
> > Set another FIRST in our society.
> >
> > Brian. :)
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > On Jul 30, 2011, at 8:51 AM, Jean Paul de Sens <jeanpauldesens at gmail.com 
> > > wrote:
> >
> >> I feel that with the last versions of Count Romanius' flails, we were
> >> getting very close to finding the good middle ground. The design 
> >> that he
> >> had worked to
> >>
> >> a) Hit hard enough to recognize easily when the correct technique 
> >> was used
> >> b) Was recognizable as not good when the wrong technique was used
> >> c) Behaved like a chain weapon
> >> d) Was unlikely to hit overly hard (defined as "harder than a great 
> >> sword or
> >> unpadded polearm")
> >>
> >> They did hit harder differently, so you did see different "dances 
> >> of joy"
> >> sometimes, but beyond that it was a good design.
> >>
> >> Shame they killed the program.
> >>
> >> Jean Paul
> >>
> 
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> THLord Stefan li Rous Barony of Bryn Gwlad Kingdom of Ansteorra
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