[Ansteorra] It is not "MY" place (was, something else)
Pukhta 'Pooky' Lovtsevich
pookyloves at gmail.com
Wed Jan 26 14:12:07 PST 2011
I understand the points you make. To clarify what I personally have
learned and apply only to myself,
"It is not my place to question the Wisdom of the Crown." Though I
would serve the Crown well to enlighten Them of any perceptions I may
have concerning Folly.
I perceive everything through a prism of love. I hope that this is
good and valuable to others. I can imagine rushing to a Crown to share
with Them my perceptions especially if something creates shadow within
the light of my prism. But I would interpret such a thing as that as
not being Wisdom, so I was not referring to such a scenario.
Though I just tried, I cannot imagine a situation of Folly applicable
to the Crown of Ansteorra. In stating this I am not asking to be
educated by your perceptions, but rather I afford you the opportunity
to respect my claymation and leave the simple mind of The Pooky
unmorphed and as you found it, lovingly.
If it be true, say amongst yourselves, "Shh... let Pooky be Pooky, we
might still have good use for him." but do take me aside and give me a
heads up whenever I err... I'm very appreciative and grateful for
opportunities to gain more in depth levels of understanding.
Fortunately, "I have no need to ever repeat a mistake."
Sigh... YaY,
Pooky
Every moment within the SCA is a precious gift. A precious gift
wherein we might create the memories of every lifetime. Every lifetime
of happiness and joyful memories is The~Dream!
~ Pooky Wolf of LOVELOVELOVE !
> Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 15:28:42 -0600 (CST)
> From: Tim McDaniel <tmcd at panix.com>
> To: "Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA, Inc." <ansteorra at lists.ansteorra.org>
>
> On Tue, 25 Jan 2011, Pukhta 'Pooky' Lovtsevich <pookyloves at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > During my multiple decades of service to Kid, Kingdom, and Crown I
> > have managed to learn only one thing during the last oh my... 34
> > years.
> >
> > That being: "It is not my place to question the Wisdom of the
> > Crown."
>
> To descend again into seriousness: I think that attitude is a failure
> of service to the king and queen. Tadhg Liath (there were giants in
> the Earth in those days) said that it is sometimes the duty of a great
> officer to say, "Your Majesty, this is madness". I would extend that:
> it think it is the duty of any member of the populace who believes
> that the king and queen are venturing towards folly to RESPECTFULLY
> and BRIEFLY point it out WITH FACTS, or opinions of it's a pure
> judgment call. I think that any good king and queen would welcome
> good counsel. And so too with a baron and baroness, or officer, or
> anyone in authority in our society. And it is especially a duty for
> those of higher station to counsel those yet above them.
>
> Danihel de Lindonio
> --
> Tim McDaniel, tmcd at panix.com
>
>
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 17:16:36 -0600
> From: mikea <mikea at mikea.ath.cx>
> To: "Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA, Inc." <ansteorra at lists.ansteorra.org>
>
> On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 03:28:42PM -0600, Tim McDaniel wrote:
> > On Tue, 25 Jan 2011, Pukhta 'Pooky' Lovtsevich <pookyloves at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >During my multiple decades of service to Kid, Kingdom, and Crown I
> > >have managed to learn only one thing during the last oh my... 34
> > >years.
> > >
> > >That being: "It is not my place to question the Wisdom of the
> > >Crown."
> >
> > To descend again into seriousness: I think that attitude is a failure
> > of service to the king and queen. Tadhg Liath (there were giants in
> > the Earth in those days) said that it is sometimes the duty of a great
> > officer to say, "Your Majesty, this is madness". I would extend that:
> > it think it is the duty of any member of the populace who believes
> > that the king and queen are venturing towards folly to RESPECTFULLY
> > and BRIEFLY point it out WITH FACTS, or opinions of it's a pure
> > judgment call. I think that any good king and queen would welcome
> > good counsel. And so too with a baron and baroness, or officer, or
> > anyone in authority in our society. And it is especially a duty for
> > those of higher station to counsel those yet above them.
> >
> > Danihel de Lindonio
>
> Amen. It is, I believe, a duty of each Peer, whether bestowed or Royal,
> to at least make a serious attempt to counsel the Crown, officers
> (particularly Great Officers), and landed nobles when he/she thinks they
> are in danger of going astray. It can be pretty much a hair shirt when the
> Crown is unconvinced, and very uncomfortable when an officer or landed
> noble is unconvinced, but I believe it to be a duty nonetheless. Knight,
> Pelican, Master of Arms, and Laurel aren't titles of privilege: they're
> *JOB* titles.
>
> --
> Mike Andrews / Michael Fenwick Barony of Namron, Ansteorra
> mikea at mikea.ath.cx / Amateur Extra radio operator W5EGO
> Tired old music Laurel; Chirurgeon; SCAdian since AS XI
> Listowner, SCA-Laurels
>
>
>> Message: 9
> Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 18:46:24 -0600
> From: Sir Lyonel <sirlyonel at hotmail.com>
> To: "Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA, Inc." <ansteorra at lists.ansteorra.org>
> Salut cozyns,
>
> I agree with Michael. Every loyal citizen can best serve the Crown by
> speaking up when they see Their Majesties moving down the wrong path.
> For peers of the realm, such counsel is part of the job description.
>
> And, let's face it, no one likes hearing, "You're doing it wrong."
> What's worse, however, than hearing that kind of bald criticism is
> hearing later--after the mistakes have been made and the damage
> irreparably done--"Yeah, I knew you were doing it wrong, but I didn't
> want to insult you."
>
> En Lyonel
> I kvetch because I care
>
>
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