[Ansteorra] Very interesting story on concussions

Fri Jan 28 06:59:37 PST 2011

When you are fighting guys like that ... apply Defense Rule #1.

Dont be there.

-- Cathal

On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 8:13 AM, Liam Gordon <cenliamgordon2005 at gmail.com>wrote:

> Lyonel,
>
> Fair enough.  I can see that.  I've been hit by the Duke whil in
> Atlantia... And I can understand it the fears about mTBI also.  I'm just
> glad that we all realize that even though the injuries can happen, we're
> not
> screaming to change the rules for our helms.  We just know that we have to
> take care of ourselves and our friends.
>
> Jovian, thanks for starting this thread.  It's a good one for conversation.
>
> Liam
>
> On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 11:46 PM, Sir Lyonel <sirlyonel at hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Salut cozyns,
> >
> > I've run full tilt into spear tips a few times. I have a particular
> > loathing for brown duct-taped spearheads. Being stopped by a grounded
> pike
> > always hurts. It usually does more damage to my neck than my head, but I
> > usually end up seeing those little flashes and streaks of light
> colloquially
> > referred to as "stars," so I know the injury IS concussive.o
> >
> > The worst head shot I ever took, however, was not from a grounded pike.
> Nor
> > was it a poleaxe or mass weapon. It was a simple broadsword in the right
> > hand of Duke Michael of Bedford. I was a junior squire at the time, and
> His
> > Grace was in teaching mode at Estrella War, favoring the squires of Dukes
> > Brion and Trelon with His instructive attention. Following a
> shoulder-feint,
> > His Grace flat-snapped me just below my left ear. Though I couldn't block
> > the shot, I saw it coming, knew where it would hit, braced for impact,
> and
> > still had a hard time retaining consciousness. The resulting headache
> lasted
> > two weeks. My helm at the time was a slightly over-sized 12-ga, Norman
> > conical helm with lots of sturdy motorcycle padding.
> >
> > The only shot I've ever taken that came close to being that damaging was
> > from Sir Christopher Reuben Montoya of Atenveldt, a lovely young man with
> > 25" biceps and a 50" chest. His shot blew through my sword and one corner
> of
> > my shield (yes, I had one once). If not for the layers of defense, he'd
> have
> > cold-cocked me. No question about it.
> >
> > So, yes, Liam, I do believe the danger of TBI is one not entirely
> mitigated
> > by our defenses.
> >
> > En Lyonel
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >
> > On Jan 27, 2011, at 12:39 PM, Jean Paul de Sens <
> jeanpauldesens at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > I don't know Liam... there's several times I've been hit in the head hard
> >> enough that I got an instant headache.  Conventional wisdom is that
> those
> >> are mini-concussions.  And I do remember times following those kinds of
> >> hits
> >> where I was not mentally at 100%.  I worry about the mass of my helmet
> >> being
> >> insufficient (mine is only about 7 lbs), and have thought about going to
> a
> >> heavier helmet just to protect my noggin better.
> >>
> >> Granted, I agree we don't need any rule changes, but as experienced
> >> fighters, we need to watch out for all of our friends, old and new, when
> >> they get a new helm, and make sure it has sufficient mass to keep them
> >> from
> >> harm.
> >>
> >> JP
> >>
> >> Qui mieux fait, mieux vault.
> >>
> >>
> >> On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 7:18 AM, Liam Gordon <
> cenliamgordon2005 at gmail.com
> >> >wrote:
> >>
> >> I agree that head injuries are serious business.  TBI (Traumatic Brain
> >>> Injury) is not fun to deal with, whether you have it or you have a
> loved
> >>> one
> >>> or a friend with it.  Those in the military have more than likely been
> >>> exposed.
> >>>
> >>> Personally, I do not believe that what we do in this game will cause
> TBI
> >>> to
> >>> our heavy fighters.  Yes, we get hit in the head, a lot.  Yes sometimes
> >>> those shots are pretty hard, but between the mass of the helm, the
> >>> padding
> >>> and the fact that we're not running then, bam, we all of sudden stop
> like
> >>> we
> >>> just got tackled vie a vie a linebacker...
> >>>
> >>> Well, ok, there is a Fiacha out there but he's a teddy bear, unless
> >>> you're
> >>> a
> >>> skinny bean pole like Ioannes Dalassenos... Just ask Ioannes the next
> >>> time
> >>> you see him, he'll tell ya the story... Hehehe)
> >>>
> >>> Do our armor rules need to change? No.  We just have to be more
> cognizant
> >>> of
> >>> our selves and our bodies.  And if we feel that our own armour isn't
> good
> >>> enough, then change it.  Make sure that you feel safe in your own
> >>> armor...
> >>> That's the key.
> >>>
> >>> Liam
> >>>
> >>> On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 10:17 PM, <deddy2 at austin.rr.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I heard this on NPR the other day. Interesting and scary.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> http://www.npr.org/2011/01/20/133053436/brain-injuries-haunt-football-players-years-later
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> I know I'll look more closely at my helmet padding.
> >>>>
> >>>> Grace and Peace,
> >>>>
> >>>> Jovian
> >>>>
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