[Ansteorra] Duchess Willow needs cat help
Ld.blackmoon
ld.blackmoon at cox.net
Fri Jul 29 10:22:43 PDT 2011
greetings
>We already had nuisance laws in place when this ordinance was passed. It
>was also amusing that a good portion of the city counsel that passed said
>ordinance were actually in violation (shots not up to date, license, etc.)
>themselves.<
isn't that usually the case ? most people in authority believe that laws and
rules they create should not effect them in any way : (
>> As to hoarding, there is 'hoarding' and then there is 'hoarding'. I
> fully admit to having too much stuff (by my own standards), but as long as
> it is arranged fairly well, is not harboring pests, and in no way
> endangers anyone, what concern is it to anyone but me (and my husband)? <
lol, i never said that all levels of hoarding were bad ; ) , i just said
that we all seem to have so some level of that particular mentality ; )
>> We live in a society that is increasingly deciding what is best for us
> and I will not be surprised when the "hoarding police" knock on my door
> and tell me I have to get rid of all my books, etc. or be taken away to
> the pysch ward. <
that's because too many people are willing to vote away their rights ,
wanting the government to protect them from their own poor choices , so that
they never have to be responsible for things like lack of common sense : (
this also happens when elected politicians add hidden little bits to a
popular bill in order to get things passed instead of trying to get them
passed out in the open on their own : (
but normally its because some special interest group raised a stink because
something wasn't being done the way they wanted it to be done .
much like the current push to remove " cartoons " from cereal boxes , it is
much easier to make the company change / stop using ,a 15 or more year old
logo than it is ( for some people ) to tell your children " no " and stick
to it : / , which is why places have started going " child restricted " or "
child free ". but spoiled brats are a different ( mostly modern ) rant ; )
Be Safe , Be Happy, Have Fun .
Arthur
----- Original Message -----
From: "Hugh & Belinda Niewoehner" <BurgBorrendohl at valornet.com>
To: "Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA, Inc." <ansteorra at lists.ansteorra.org>
Sent: Friday, July 29, 2011 8:21 AM
Subject: [Ansteorra] Duchess Willow needs cat help
>> duchess willow currently resides in north Tulsa , Okla..
>> Tulsa , Oklahoma has several pet " protection " laws on the books,
>> including if you have more than x number of cats / dogs , or combination
>> thereof that you must purchase a kennel license every year.and allow
>> random inspections of your kennels. also all of your pets must have and
>> maintain all required shots every year . ( rabies still shows up from
>> time to time here about, not to mention parvo , mange and other pet
>> diseases ).
>> some of these really are to protect the animals, others seem more likely
>> to add money to the city bank account.
>
> As Pandora expressed, there seems to be a movement by certain people who
> think they are the only ones capable of determining the proper care of
> animals to harass and bully others into their way of thinking. Like most
> well-meaning organizations (governments), they have received some 'power'
> and now abuse it. When animals are actually being abused (as in dog
> fighting) I am thankful they step in to do something. But considering how
> difficult it was to make dog fighting illegal in Oklahoma a few years
> back, one would think they would have better use of their time finding
> those violating those laws and truly abusing animals instead of going
> after the pet owner who simply has one or two cats/dogs too many
> (according to some arbitrary number they have decided upon). I find it
> sickly amusing that these organizations are now doing what they accuse
> hoarders of doing. Their accusation is that people who have too many
> animals believe they are the only ones that can take care of them
> properly, so they won't part with them, but hoard and accumulate. These
> organizations have made it difficult for people to be able to qualify to
> adopt (purchase) animals and so the animals are either stuck in foster
> homes, shelters or murdered rather than given to a loving family who fails
> to meet some standard on their four and five page adoption papers. My
> parents were rejected because they were too old even though they assured
> them that one of their seven kids (all animal lovers) would make sure the
> dog would be cared for if they should die. I can't tell you how hurt and
> angry my father was. As a result of these strict adoption requirements
> and seizures animals are collected and hoarded by the authorities,
> themselves, until they are euthanized. And don't be fooled by 'no kill'.
> One of the shelters north of town claims to be 'no kill', but admitted
> when they become overcrowded, they send the animals to Tulsa to be
> murdered.
>
> My brother was faced with the 'only five' rule when he and his wife
> married, each having three dogs. The magical 'five' number threat was
> used by a neighbor who was angry with them for revenge. Fortunately, my
> brother was able to get his dogs listed as animals being trained for
> search and rescue for the Boy Scouts (he works for them). The city
> officials were satisfied and admitted that most of these complaints were
> vindictive and had no real issues of abuse or nuisance. We already had
> nuisance laws in place when this ordinance was passed. It was also
> amusing that a good portion of the city counsel that passed said ordinance
> were actually in violation (shots not up to date, license, etc.)
> themselves.
>
> As to hoarding, there is 'hoarding' and then there is 'hoarding'. I fully
> admit to having too much stuff (by my own standards), but as long as it is
> arranged fairly well, is not harboring pests, and in no way endangers
> anyone, what concern is it to anyone but me (and my husband)? We live in a
> society that is increasingly deciding what is best for us and I will not
> be surprised when the "hoarding police" knock on my door and tell me I
> have to get rid of all my books, etc. or be taken away to the pysch ward.
> Until then I will eat my McDonald's cheeseburgers (until they force
> McDonald's to close their doors altogether), shuffle my abundance of
> belongings from room to room, and love on my fur children.
>
> End of rant [for now : ) ]
>
> Ismet
>
>
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