[Ansteorra] Flails (was: Questions regarding slings & Tavern Fights)

[Stefan li Rous]

Is there a paper on this particular "SCA" flail? Directions on  
building one? Perhaps the actual submission paper, if there was one?
Any videos of it being used? or diagrams or photos of this flail?

Even though it didn't get approved (this time), it would be  
instructive to have such material and perhaps someone can figure out  
how to make it acceptable for SCA use or use this as a starting point  
in the future. It also has usefulness as a bit of SCA history.

I think those that are more interested in medieval weapons and  
fighting than simply winning in the SCA sport of combat might be  
interested in this. It sounds like it would affect some fighting  
styles, just as allowing shots below the knee would.

I would be interested in any of these items for inclusion in the  
COMBAT section of the Florilegium.

Thanks,
   Stefan

On Jul 30, 2011, at 9:05 AM, John Reuter wrote:

> I liked it. The period weapon that was actually used in war and in  
> lists was a whole different style of fight. Even though shield work  
> did slow it down, the head could still impact the fighter if the  
> shield was held to close to the body. The flail was more versatile  
> than people gave it credit for. I want to make two more like Count  
> Romanius' just to have an equal weapon for opponents to play with.   
> Unofficially that is. I wish Ansteorra could have it as a weapon.  
> Set another FIRST in our society.
>
> Brian.  :)
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jul 30, 2011, at 8:51 AM, Jean Paul de Sens <jeanpauldesens at gmail.com 
> > wrote:
>
>> I feel that with the last versions of Count Romanius' flails, we were
>> getting very close to finding the good middle ground.  The design  
>> that he
>> had worked to
>>
>> a) Hit hard enough to recognize easily when the correct technique  
>> was used
>> b) Was recognizable as not good when the wrong technique was used
>> c) Behaved like a chain weapon
>> d) Was unlikely to hit overly hard (defined as "harder than a great  
>> sword or
>> unpadded polearm")
>>
>> They did hit harder differently, so you did see different "dances  
>> of joy"
>> sometimes, but beyond that it was a good design.
>>
>> Shame they killed the program.
>>
>> Jean Paul
>>

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