[Ansteorra] Duchess Willow needs cat help

Thu Jul 28 22:53:13 PDT 2011

Thank you for the information.

While I will defend everyone's rights to their private property, to have and to hold, until death do they part; I'd like to take a moment for a public service announcement...
Please remember the Three R's of conservation and the first one is REDUCE.

Pandora, Yep, I still have SCA stuff even though I haven't been out to play in years :)

--- On Thu, 7/28/11, Ld.blackmoon <ld.blackmoon at cox.net> wrote:

> From: Ld.blackmoon <ld.blackmoon at cox.net>
> Subject: Re: [Ansteorra] Duchess Willow  needs cat help
> To: "Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA, Inc." <ansteorra at lists.ansteorra.org>
> Date: Thursday, July 28, 2011, 9:23 PM
> greetings
> 
> duchess willow currently resides in north Tulsa , Okla..
> Tulsa , Oklahoma has several pet " protection " laws on the
> books, including if you have more than x number of 
> cats / dogs , or combination thereof that you must purchase
> a kennel license every year.and allow random inspections of
> your kennels. also all of your pets must have and maintain
> all required shots every year . ( rabies still shows up from
> time to time here about, not to mention parvo , mange and
> other pet diseases ).
> some of these really are to protect the animals, others
> seem more likely to add money to the city bank account.
> 
> also , just a casual observation , but so far as I have
> been able to determine , many , if not all members of the
> sca seem to suffer from some level of " hoarding " , be it
> books, material, armor, clothing, ( ok, I admit there was a
> bow making bench in my library for over a year ;) etc. we
> all have lots of " stuff " and we give up rooms in our
> houses, as well as storage sheds and money , to house all
> that " stuff " , sometimes having the " stuff " becomes more
> important than nutritious food, or clean clothing, or
> emptying the litter box , or taking our meds, but it's ok
> because we still have our " stuff ".
> I just realized that I am as guilty as anyone in this
> matter over the last couple of months, and plan on having a
> fall cleaning session when it cools off some , I realized I
> still have pants , underwear, socks and t-shirts, and even
> my old motorcycle jacket in a closet from the 1970's , I
> have several duplicate titles in my library, ( unusable due
> to " stuff " stored there ) which needs cleaned out, as well
> as stacks of containers full of " stuff " on my back porch
> that haven't been opened in many years , other than to say
> oh yea , that's where that went ,and be closed up again : (
> .
> many times it is a subconscious need to have " stuff " ,
> luckily I'm not so far down that road that I " have " to
> have " stuff " , it is just "stuff " after all, and others
> may be better able to use that  " stuff " whether by
> gift or by sale I hope to have much more room and a cleaner
> house soon , although my cat may dislike me for removing her
> hidey holes .I'm sure she will eventually forgive me ; )
> 
> just my observations and opinions, your reality may be
> different; )
> Be Safe , Be Happy, Have Fun .
> Arthur
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Leslie Snipes" <lesdsnipes at yahoo.com>
> To: " Inc.Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA" <ansteorra at lists.ansteorra.org>
> Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2011 8:05 PM
> Subject: Re: [Ansteorra] Duchess Willow needs cat help
> 
> 
> Great Lady, Please forgive me but I've forgotten what part
> of Oklahoma you're in and would like to reach out to some
> friends who might be able to find homes for your kitties.
> 
> I hope all of you will forgive me taking a bit of bandwidth
> here...
> The animal rights activists are more active than ever and
> OK and TX are hotbeds of activity.  Despite publicity
> to the contrary, the activists do not primarily target
> people like Vick and dog fighting.  Their primary
> target is a far more average owner of animals and
> seizures/forfeitures are done quietly across the country
> every day.  I have seen someone with as few as 4
> animals accused of "hoarding".
> 
> If one is so unlucky as to have their animal seizure
> publicized, they will likely end up in several on-line
> databases and forever be tagged as "hoarders" and "abusers"
> and there are movements and pending legislation for animal
> abuse databases similar to the sex abuser database which, if
> you've paid attention, often includes young adults who had
> the misfortune of turning "of age" before their sweetheart
> did.  The animal abuse registry will similarly include
> those who simply do not belong in it.
> 
> What Duchess Willow is experiencing is only unusual in that
> she's getting the opportunity to place her animals herself
> and I'm sure talking the SPCA into that was NO easy
> task.  Here in Texas, the activists generally show up
> with animal control and someone from Adult Protective
> Services.  They ask the animal owner to "surrender"
> ownership under threat of being locked up for a
> psychological evaluation.  If you live alone, that
> means they are going to take your animals for want of
> care.  They primarily target older animal owners
> (especially women), usually seize all animals, hold a
> forfeiture hearing in under 10 days before a JP, summarily
> forfeit the animals to the activist group (which is then
> free to kill or sell them), and then criminal charges
> (sometimes felony charges) are filed.
> 
> If you're thinking "cat lady", STOP.  They target
> owners of all animals: dogs, cats, horses, donkeys, ferrets,
> turtles, livestock... oh, and especially those who own more
> exotic animals like birds of prey or big cats. They prey
> upon those who cannot defend themselves.
> 
> I blogged on this rather steadily under my pseudonym for
> about a year at http://pjboosinger.jigsy.com/
> 
> If you own animals and think you, the owner, is the one in
> a better position to make decisions for your animals than
> complete strangers who will seize them, stuff them in cages
> and likely kill them if they are beyond puppy/kitty cute
> stage; if you believe that property rights underpin the
> freedom of this country; then I would suggest that animal
> law is a subject you should learn at least a bit
> about.  If you own more than 5 animals, I would suggest
> you need to learn a lot and fast.
> 
> I will now step off my soapbox and ask that those who have
> an interest and want more information check out my blog a
> bit and then contact me at PJBoosinger at yahoo.com
> 
> If you can help Duchess Willow find even temporary
> accommodations for her cats while ongoing efforts for
> permanent placement continue, PLEASE do so. I know enough
> about this issue to fear for all her cats, her and her
> family.
> 
> Pandora
> 
> 
> 
> --- On Thu, 7/28/11, willowdewisp at juno.com
> <willowdewisp at juno.com>
> wrote:
> 
> > From: willowdewisp at juno.com
> <willowdewisp at juno.com>
> > Subject: [Ansteorra] Duchess Willow  needs cat
> help
> > To: ansteorra at lists.ansteorra.org
> > Date: Thursday, July 28, 2011, 5:02 PM
> > Hello, I know i got lots of help when
> > we moved to OK and I thank everyone.
> > Many of you know that I had too many cats and some of
> you
> > toke some of my cats. I ran out of brownie Points and
> no one
> > had room for more cats. At that time I had 15. Since
> > that time I have gotten down to 9, but I can only have
> 5 in
> > OK.
> > Somebody who knew me called the SPCA and turned me in
> and I
> > must get rid of 4 cat at once. I have big beautiful
> black
> > fixed boy cat to small beigh blue eyed cats. I have
> lots of
> > stripy cats.
> > Please help me. The remaining cats are my dear friends
> and
> > If I can't find a no-kill place for them I don't know
> what I
> > will do.
> > Your very upset friend
> > willow
> >
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