[Ansteorra] Flails (was: Questions regarding slings & Tavern Fights)

[John Reuter]

I liked it. The period weapon that was actually used in war and in lists was a whole different style of fight. Even though shield work did slow it down, the head could still impact the fighter if the shield was held to close to the body. The flail was more versatile than people gave it credit for. I want to make two more like Count Romanius' just to have an equal weapon for opponents to play with.  Unofficially that is. I wish Ansteorra could have it as a weapon. Set another FIRST in our society.

Brian.  :)

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On Jul 30, 2011, at 8:51 AM, Jean Paul de Sens <jeanpauldesens at gmail.com> wrote:

> I feel that with the last versions of Count Romanius' flails, we were
> getting very close to finding the good middle ground.  The design that he
> had worked to
> 
> a) Hit hard enough to recognize easily when the correct technique was used
> b) Was recognizable as not good when the wrong technique was used
> c) Behaved like a chain weapon
> d) Was unlikely to hit overly hard (defined as "harder than a great sword or
> unpadded polearm")
> 
> They did hit harder differently, so you did see different "dances of joy"
> sometimes, but beyond that it was a good design.
> 
> Shame they killed the program.
> 
> Jean Paul
> 
> Qui mieux fait, mieux vault.
> 
> 
> On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 9:55 AM, Jay Rudin <rudin at peoplepc.com> wrote:
> 
>> Daniel wrote:
>> 
>>> I Have Heard that, in the early days, someone tried a flail made from
>>> some sort of rod + plastic chain + a Nerf football, as they thought
>>> Nerf would be soft enough.  As I heard it: wrong, the crack-the-whip
>>> effect made it hit very hard, and because it was on the end of a
>>> chain, it wasn't very controllable.  And so (the tale ended) they
>>> banned all flails, nunchuks, and their ilk.
>>> 
>>> Have I indicated strongly enough how hearsayish the story was?
>> 
>> In the principality days, somebody brought one that was roughly three balls
>> on three ropes. According to Duke Lloyd, the problem was that, unlike an
>> actual flail, it was very light, so it was too easy to throw a shot that was
>> nearly impossible to block (because it was three shots in three different
>> locations). It was banned because it didn't act like a real weapon.
>> 
>> The problem with most flail designs is that if it's light, it's way too
>> fast and easy. If it's heavy enough to behave like a flailing mass weapon,
>> then it behaves like a flailing mass weapon.
>> 
>> Robin of Gilwell / Jay Rudin
>> 
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