[Ansteorra] Gulf Wars Trailers

Haraldr Bassi ansteorra at haraldr.drakkar.org
Thu Mar 24 22:38:59 PDT 2011

It seemed obvious to me that those roads do go somewhere. I went up that way to park and 
encountered a trucker with a semi cab and I believe a full size rig that he had detached up 
there somewhere and seemed like he was wondering if he could make it through. Would have ended 
up trying to bring a semi through 5 points.... uggh... he backed up and went back the way he had 
come in.


On 3/24/11 12:35 PM, randel lee wrote:
> If we increase the duties of the gate person to check the trailer matching the hanging tag, and we think that can help, does that mean that the thieves have signed into gate to get a hanging parking permit?
> I was wondering about the back road called "some killer trail"  we use it to get to the parking area from camping, and I saw non SCA people on that road. does the 3 roads leading off of it that we don't use lead off site entirely? and could that be the way the thieves came and left without ever needing to go out a gate? so that would make matching tags useless.
> but I am Not sure where those other roads lead.
> Randel
> --- On Thu, 3/24/11, Ysabeau<ysabeau.lists at gmail.com>  wrote:
>> From: Ysabeau<ysabeau.lists at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Ansteorra] Gulf Wars Trailers
>> To: "Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA, Inc."<ansteorra at lists.ansteorra.org>
>> Date: Thursday, March 24, 2011, 11:37 AM
>> I believe that there are stickers for
>> identifying trailers issued when
>> you pick up your parking pass. I know that we do it for
>> merchants. I
>> think that a lot of people don't think about it when they
>> get there
>> and are checking in or see it as an additional piece of
>> paperwork and
>> don't fill it out or ask for one. The primary purpose is to
>> be able to
>> find the owner in the event something happens but it would
>> be easy to
>> make sure the information matches the hang tag when someone
>> is leaving
>> with a trailer. There is usually someone at the exit gate
>> checking for
>> site tokens anyway. There shouldn't be too many people
>> leaving during
>> the week with a trailer so the high traffic days would be
>> early and
>> late in the week. Maybe adding the license plate in large
>> letters that
>> matches the sticker to the hang tag will make it faster for
>> the gate
>> people. I think most of the information is written in small
>> letters
>> that you have to be close to read.
>> I believe the tools are there, it is just a matter of
>> adding it to the
>> duties of the person(s) at the exit gate.
>> There are numerous issues with keeping the trailers
>> attached to
>> vehicles...especially when we can't get everyone to follow
>> the parking
>> rules now. If we add segregated trailer parking that
>> accommodates a
>> variety of vehicle+trailer lengths, then we will increase
>> the parking
>> cluster instead of decreasing it, imo.
>> Just my two cents,
>> Ysabeau
>> On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 12:28 PM, Elizabeth Crouchet
>> <elizabeth at crouchet.com>
>> wrote:
>>> Thank you for your wise words, Your Grace. Personal
>> responsibility and due
>>> diligence are always the best first course.
>>> I know we need to add a trailer lock and a strong box
>> with lock in our
>>> supplies.
>>> That said, is there anything that can be done within
>> reason, to increase our
>>> security at GW?
>>>   Maybe that kind of thing needs to be clearly and
>> repeatedly pointed out in
>>> GW information. Many new people and even old-timers
>> with old habits may not
>>> think about this kind of thing without a reminder.
>>> Claire
>>> On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 11:22 AM, Rebecca Bevel<rhbevel at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>> Important things to note:
>>>> Our trailer was taken pre-war Saturday, before any
>> security was in place.
>>>> Our trailer was not locked.
>>>> Our trailer was parked just inside the back gate
>> for easy access by the bad
>>>> guys.
>>>> Our trailer was a flat bed with no unique
>> identifiers.
>>>> It is bad that as many as 3 trailers were stolen
>> this year, but how many
>>>> trailers were on site?
>>>> I'd much prefer recommending trailer locks&
>> personal diligence to putting
>>>> in place new procedures that would pull volunteers
>> from other necessary
>>>> tasks.  The Gulf War staff is not resonsible for
>> the theft of my trailer,
>>>> and there is no reason for every future attendee
>> to be inconvenienced by my
>>>> failure to lock it.
>>>> Grafin Rebekah

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