[Ansteorra] Gulf Wars Trailers

Elizabeth Crouchet elizabeth at crouchet.com
Thu Mar 24 10:59:48 PDT 2011


Thank you for your insight.

Claire

On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 11:58 AM, Cisco Cividanes <engtrktwo at gmail.com>wrote:

> I've been more or less just listening so far, but I wanted to make a few
> observations.
>
>
> 1. you may thing this is a long shot, and even I think its crazy, BUT,
> considering how much these trailers cost, maybe people should jack up one
> side and remove the tire/s, locking it their car. I know it sounds
> over-the-top, but honestly, if someone was willing to take a hammer to a
> lock and risk discovery, than any additional security measure might well
> just be breached by brute force, or the trailer might be damaged in a
> failed
> attempt. Its not line heavy metal things walking around a large SCA event
> are all that uncommon, so someone walking with a crowbar and a sledg hammer
> would hardly attract a lot of attention. I guess my summary statement here
> is that me might want to consider taking away rather than adding. Just a
> thought.
>
> 2. I'm a private security guard, and my first thoughts to additional
> security in the trailer parking lot are these. A) I don't think the hosting
> group can do it, because if they have a checklist or guards, then I think
> they just assumed responsibility for whatever happened to the trailers,
> Don't hold me to that, but I seem to remember some corresponding incidents
> Ive had professionally where insurance companies screamed bloody murder
> because the site was guarded, but stuffl still got stolen. Not a lawyer
> here, but I think liability law will come into play if we walk too far down
> that road. And B) Part of my job used to be tracking trucks and trailers at
> work sites to make sure something didn't wonder off just like we are
> talking
> about. Even with a week's training, computers, a digital camera and a
> written procedure, the process was still chaotic and labor incentive. Say
> what you want about how easy it should be, but I was there, and life just
> had its own plans, or at least that was my experience.
>
> 3. I'm not trying to stir the pot here, but has anyone considered that the
> person/people who stole those trailers are reading this e-mail right now?
>  I
> know you may think I'm crazy (again), but consider that if the person
> was familiar with site, they might be SCA, and they might be listening in
> to
> kingdom lists just to see how much stuff they stirred up. You may think it
> sounds far fetched, but when I was guarding a refinery, we caught people
> breaking in, and they had old scanners in their cars so they could listen
> in
> on our radio traffic and figure out when we were not close to them. Those
> were $40 scanners, searching these lists is free. My point isn't to get us
> pointing fingers at each other, please don't read it that way. And neither
> is it to sew distrust. But if we don't have a realistic idea of what our
> adversaries may look like, we're never going to be able to get a handle on
> good security.
>
> Lord Ivo Blackhawk (who misses Gulf War something fierce)
>
> Okay, I've said my bit, and I hope I didn't offend/insult anyone in the
> process. This is just strictly be thinking out loud.
>



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