[Ansteorra] Gulf Wars Trailers

Richard Threlkeld rjt at softwareinnovation.com
Thu Mar 24 11:22:11 PDT 2011 

It is hard enough getting people for the current gate security positions.  Hard to duplicate stickers are a lot more expensive than the current system.

I suggest we just lock each trailer.

In Service,
Caelin on Andrede


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> bounces+rjt=softwareinnovation.com at lists.ansteorra.org] On Behalf Of
> HerrDetlef
> Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 11:11 AM
> To: Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA, Inc.
> Subject: Re: [Ansteorra] Gulf Wars Trailers
> 
> How about this:
> 
> Two gates--one at the entrance and one at the exit. This will require more
> manpower, but not much more.
> 
> Anybody entering with a trailer will get a trailer permit at the entrance
> gate (with the trailer tag prominently written on it) that cannot be
> duplicated, and said permit placed in the cab of the towing truck or car, to
> be shown to the gate personnel at the exit upon departure. And no vehicle
> will be allowed to exit with a trailer in tow without the appropriate
> documentation.
> 
> Maybe even a "trailers only" exit that all vehicles towing trailers must
> pass, so that the checks don't cause traffic problems...
> 
> Can something like this be done?
> 
> Detlef
> 
> On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 11:03 AM, B Scott Mills
> <b.scott.mills at gmail.com>wrote:
> 
> > I think that it is important to note that Graf Galen's trailer went missing
> > early-on, before war was open to the general populace and before the
> back
> > gates and packing areas where being manned.   It was also before the staff
> > had gone through Troll and had any car or trailer tags or anything like
> > that.   Any Gulf War system in place likely would not have helped  because
> > the Gulf War systems were not yet all up and running.
> >
> > Year after year at the staff meetings I have heard of all of the parking
> > problems that are caused by Trailers being left attached to vehicles.  That
> > was mentioned again this year and I believe the intent for the future at
> > Gulf War is to not allow any trailers to remain attached to the tow vehicles
> > and perhaps to have a separate trailer parking area.
> >
> > I believe the best protection is to simply make sure that you trailer is
> > well locked.  When I spoke to Graf Galen on Saturday before was I believe
> he
> > indicated to me that the missing trailer had not yet been locked.
> >
> > Trailer hitch locks like this do a good job and is likely all that is
> > needed.
> >
> > http://www.amazon.com/Master-Lock-377DAT-Universal-
> Trailer/dp/B0000AXRMU
> >
> >
> > http://www.amazon.com/Trimax-UMAX50-Universal-Hardened-
> couplers/dp/B000F3RYGA
> >
> > http://www.amazon.com/Master-Lock-379ATPY-Universal-
> Trailer/dp/B000L9QRE8
> >
> >
> > http://www.amazon.com/Trimax-UMAX100-Universal-Die-Cast-
> couplers/dp/B000OC3Q2I
> >
> > http://www.amazon.com/Reese-Towpower-72783-Universal-
> Coupler/dp/B0008FUH46
> >
> > It is a shame that the world we live in requires such measures but I
> > believe that the best solution is probably also the simplest solution....
> > Keep the trailers locked.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > -EA
> >
> >
> >
> > On 3/24/2011 10:42 AM, John Hirling wrote:
> >
> >> Been thinking about this one.
> >>
> >> How would this work (with trailers that are a car length or less):
> >>
> >> Set up parking so that it's two deep per row - two vehicles or a vehicle
> >> and
> >> a trailer.  If a trailer owner decides to leave site, s/he either takes
> >> the
> >> trailer with him/her or pulls it up to where the vehicle had been parked
> >> and
> >> takes the chance that another vehicle will occupy the abandoned trailer
> >> spot.  If the space behind the trailer is taken, park elsewhere - but you
> >> will still be able to hook to your trailer.
> >>
> >> Make sense?  If so, it will never be implemented :)
> >>
> >> ~ihon
> >>
> >>
> >>  2011/3/24 Kazimierz Złowieszczy<kazoflr at gmail.com>
> >>
> >>   Agreed. At the very least, we need to suggest that there be a system
> >>> for
> >>> assuring that the car leaving site with the trailer is the appropriate
> >>> one.
> >>>
> >>> I feel that we need to also look at a way to ensure that trailers can
> >>> remain
> >>> attached and locked to the owner's cars. I am frustrated with the system
> >>> we
> >>> currently use which makes us either separate the two or park offsite. I
> >>> understand that space for parking is a problem already. Perhaps we
> could
> >>> have a lot designated for car with attached trailer parking which has
> >>> slightly larger drive aisles to allow for the turning movements required
> >>> for
> >>> a car/trailer combo.
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 9:55 AM, Dana Busenbark<
> >>> danab-steppes at earthlink.net
> >>>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>> A suggestion that I have is considering that the gate is always manned,
> >>>> have someone with a clipboard back there, with the license plate on
> the
> >>>> trailer and car, so that when someone leaves with a trailer, it can be
> >>>> verified that the trailer belongs with that car. Or, since we have
> >>>>
> >>> parking
> >>>
> >>>> pass things for the windows, or perhaps make one that says 'Trailer'
> >>>> with
> >>>> the basic information about the trailer that has to be kept on the dash
> >>>> board. Or shown when you go to leave with the trailer.
> >>>>
> >>>> On Mar 24, 2011, at 9:51 AM, Galen Bevel wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Our trailer was taken from the trailer parking lot near the back gate.
> >>>>>
> >>>> This
> >>>>
> >>>>> was done on Saturday between noon and 5pm.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Graf Galen Kirchenbauer
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 2011/3/21 Kazimierz Złowieszczy<kazoflr at gmail.com>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I have heard reports of one trailer stolen at Gulf Wars this year. My
> >>>>>> trailer had an attempt at theft made on it, one which will require
> >>>>>> extensive
> >>>>>> repairs to the trailer tongue and replacement of several locks.
> >>>>>> Fortunately,
> >>>>>> the locks held and I was able, with assistance of a friend and a
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> crowbar,
> >>>>
> >>>>> to
> >>>>>> re-attach my trailer to my car and bring it home. My trailer was
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> parked
> >>>
> >>>>   past
> >>>>>> the equestrian area, near where the overflow trash was taken by
> the
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> King's
> >>>>
> >>>>> Arrow employees.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I am curious as to how many trailers also were damaged this year.
> Was
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> this
> >>>>
> >>>>> widespread or limited to one area of the parking lot(s).
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> --
> >>>>>> Pan Kazimierz Złowieszczy
> >>>>>> Lordy Lord Kaz the Sinister
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Fiona the Needleworker
> >>>> a.k.a. Fionnbharr le Nedlere
> >>>> m.k.a. Dana Busenbark
> >>>>
> >>>> Barony of the Steppes
> >>>> Kingdom of Ansteorra
> >>>>
> >>>>
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