[Ansteorra] Camp fee what to do about it

[Dan Baker]

Umm, I have taught many classes over the years, and no I am not a peer.  I
have yet to charge for a copy of a handout, or materials, and certainly not
travel expenses.  And I have taught classes of as many as 75 people.  I
chose to take care of my costs,THAT IS MY CHOICE, and I have no problem with
others who for various reasons defray their expenses with a nominal fee.
Now if they are charging an excessive fee, say $5 for $1 worth of handouts,
I object and will not pay or partake in the class.  Fees should reflect the
true out of pocket costs.  And the same for a Pennsic camp fee.  There are
costs to running a camp for a group, if everyone chips in to cover the true
costs, how is that not fair?  Did you want the services to be ala carte?  Oh
heck I will pay for this and this, but not that?

On Sat, May 21, 2011 at 7:03 PM, Bree Flowers <evethejust at gmail.com> wrote:

> Willow wrote:
>
> >Our peers don't get anything to defray there cost for teaching and
> judging.
>
> On this point at least I want to call b*ll$**t. I've paid plenty of
> class fees over the years to cover the cost of the materials and
> photocopies provided by the instructors, and though I'm not a peer,
> I've never been out of pocket for a class I've taught. And in all the
> years I've been doing it, I've never seen anyone object, but I've also
> never seen anyone turned away that genuinely could not afford the fee.
> We have always made it work. And if you think materials and copies are
> all is all that is covered, I've seen teachers that were particularly
> in demand paid for their travel expenses too. And I've never seen
> anyone complain and say they shouldn't have been reimbursed for that
> either.
>
> I don't mind pulling my weight financially, and I'm stunned at the
> number of other people who seem to want to be free-loaders and cloak
> it under the guise of "hospitality". The people who don't want to
> partake of the communal services have been given the option of opting
> out, so in my eyes, if you're still arguing it's because you think
> you're entitled to getting something for nothing. I totally get if you
> can't pay and want to work out another, non-financial way in which you
> can share your portion of the burden and still enjoy the benefits, and
> I think no one objects to that arrangement. But if you're objecting to
> fees because of some sense of principal, sorry, you're looking like a
> freeloading jerk to me. Or someone who would like to see the whole
> camp do without (or one person pay for the lot so we don't all suffer)
> rather than paying a nominal fee.
>
> And this is where I need to shut up and walk away because I'm sure a
> whole lot of people are going to hate me now.
>
> ~Eve
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