[Ansteorra] Royalty - Same Sex Consorts‏

[HerrDetlef]

This is going to sound horribly rude, but as a matter of fact, it IS the
bits under the dress that make a Queen. In mundane precedent, a Queen
consort's only job is to produce an heir for the king.

This is part of the tricky situation in which the United Kingdom will one
day find itself. The Heir Apparent's consort is not the mother of his
children, and she will not be able to produce an heir for him. So there is
talk about elevating her to the style and title "HRH The Princess Consort."
Of course, this is silly; there is only one word in the English language
for the wife of a king. And Henry VIII's wives after Jane Seymour (Anne of
Cleves, Catherine Howard, and Catherine Parr) were all queens, even though
Jane had already produced the coveted heir for Henry.

That aside, the function of producing an heir for the king is irrelevant in
SCA practice, since Crowns are not inherited according to biological
descent (and, unlike mundane precedent, the queen need not be the legally
married spouse of the king). With that out of the way, the proper role of a
Queen in the SCA is to share in the ceremonial leadership of a kingdom.

Detlef

On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 1:01 AM, Rose <rose_welch at yahoo.com> wrote:

> In that case, good Don, what makes a Queen? Is it the bits under the
> dress, or the dress itself? If it's the former, then when do those bits
> come into play? If it's the latter, would a consort in a houppelande
> suffice?
>
> -R
>
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> I know that you believe you understand what you think I meant, but I'm not
> sure you realize that what you read is not what I wrote.
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> From: Peter Wohlers <donpieter at aol.com>
> To: "Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA, Inc." <ansteorra at lists.ansteorra.org>
> Sent: Monday, October 31, 2011 12:34 AM
> Subject: Re: [Ansteorra] Royalty - Same Sex Consorts‏
>
>  If you are asking this question then you truly do not understand the
> rapier community or the White Scarves of Ansteorra. The cult of Gloriana is
> at it's core a true love of our Queen. There is no streching creativity in
> that. We have a Queen and we are devout in our attention to her. Those of
> us who win baronial championships to try to give as much attention to the
> baroness of that group as we can and most try to make her feel like a Queen
> but in the end there is but one Queen of Ansteorra. Remove the community
> from the Quuen or the Queen from the community and a great loss will be
> felt in this kingdom.
> Don Pieter Rausch
>
> >>
> >
> > On the off chance that two men did happen to win, why couldn't your
> > persona worship the princess while they were on the thrones? And for
> > the couple of months between Coronation and Crown Tournament, how
> > about pledging your sword to a Baroness? Or enjoy some schtick where
> > you wait for the "one true Queen" to return? Our middle name here is
> > "Creative" after all, if the situation arises, use it as an
> > opportunity to stretch your creativity.
> >
> > ~Eve
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