[Ansteorra] Royalty - Same Sex Consorts‏

Doug Copley doug.copley at gmail.com
Wed Nov 2 06:31:06 PDT 2011


My Lords and Ladies,

There is no need to be condescending or rude to anyone here on the list.

I believe that all of us want what is best for t e SCA, the game, and 
the Dream. The only questions are how the Dream looks and what is the 
best way to get there. Both of these are subjective opinions that need 
to be discussed openly and freely.

YIS,
Vincenti

On 11/2/2011 8:21 AM, Peter Wohlers wrote:
> Well let's first define the word since you are unclear or unable:
> queen
> [kween]
> - noun1. female sovereign2. the wife of a king3. the fertile female of bees, ants, etc.- verb (used with object)4. to crown as queen
> So as we see in the definition of the word class, the first point is that SHE is female. Not a man dressed as a woman but female. As to the second part even if the couple in the SCA is not really married in real life the queen portrays that role. I know that there are examples of a single queen like the great gloriana herself Elizabeth but she is a glorious one off example of an unmarried Queen. And to note a female. The third, not important to the conversation, as we are not bees or ants and do not play them in our personas thou many crowns in the SCA work like busy bees to keep the kingdom running.
>
> Remember class always use reference sources before asking question. It helps keep the class moving.
>
> Don Pieter
>
> CAVE QUID DICIS,QUANDO,ET CUI
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Nov 2, 2011, at 1:01 AM, Rose<rose_welch at yahoo.com>  wrote:
>
>> In that case, good Don, what makes a Queen? Is it the bits under the dress, or the dress itself? If it's the former, then when do those bits come into play? If it's the latter, would a consort in a houppelande suffice?
>>
>> -R
>>
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>>
>> I know that you believe you understand what you think I meant, but I'm not sure you realize that what you read is not what I wrote.
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: Peter Wohlers<donpieter at aol.com>
>> To: "Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA, Inc."<ansteorra at lists.ansteorra.org>
>> Sent: Monday, October 31, 2011 12:34 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Ansteorra] Royalty - Same Sex Consorts‏
>>
>> If you are asking this question then you truly do not understand the rapier community or the White Scarves of Ansteorra. The cult of Gloriana is at it's core a true love of our Queen. There is no streching creativity in that. We have a Queen and we are devout in our attention to her. Those of us who win baronial championships to try to give as much attention to the baroness of that group as we can and most try to make her feel like a Queen but in the end there is but one Queen of Ansteorra. Remove the community from the Quuen or the Queen from the community and a great loss will be felt in this kingdom.
>> Don Pieter Rausch
>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> On the off chance that two men did happen to win, why couldn't your
>>> persona worship the princess while they were on the thrones? And for
>>> the couple of months between Coronation and Crown Tournament, how
>>> about pledging your sword to a Baroness? Or enjoy some schtick where
>>> you wait for the "one true Queen" to return? Our middle name here is
>>> "Creative" after all, if the situation arises, use it as an
>>> opportunity to stretch your creativity.
>>>
>>> ~Eve
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