[Ansteorra] Same-Sex Consorts
franchesca at bush-family.com
franchesca at bush-family.com
Wed Nov 2 06:52:13 PDT 2011
My Lady Rose,
That by far was the most succinct and compelling argument I've sen so far.
Francisca Sastre de Arellano/Franchesca
On Nov 2, 2011 12:57am, Rose <rose_welch at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Well, this is my point of view, which makes it the point of view of a
> lady (and even a Lady!) but not the point of view of all ladies (or
> Ladies). :P
> Logically speaking, taking
> an action that purposefully and exclusively removes restrictions on a
> specific
> subset of individuals does not arbitrarily create restrictions on another
> (albeit much larger) subset of individuals. If we lowered the minimum age
> for
> being a Seneschal to 17, that doesn't mean we are unfairly creating a
> disadvantage for potential Seneschals 18 and above, just because we're
> increasing the available pool of candidates.
> More importantly, as a
> woman, I can never be represented by inequality and thus, am not currently
> represented by our Kings and Queens. You see,
> I'm not solely a woman. I'ma gay woman and a brown woman and a mother and
> so
> on. I am an intersection of these things, and I accept inequality for
> none of
> them. Further, even if I were solely a woman, and not brown or gay or a
> mother,
> I wouldn't want the kind of representation that comes at the expense of
> equality.
> And, of course, there
> remains the fact that we have very few women with the impetus to win Crown
> Tourney, and even fewer that have same-sex consorts that also want to
> reign. If
> we build it, maybe no one will come and nothing will change, but we will
> still
> be a better society for providing that opportunity.
> Lady Rose the Obnoxious
> * * * * * * *
> I know that you believe you understand what you think I meant, but I'm
> not sure you realize that what you read is not what I wrote.
> ________________________________
> From: Eric Brown caladin at bz93.com>
> To: "Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA, Inc." ansteorra at lists.ansteorra.org>
> Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2011 11:07 PM
> Subject: Re: [Ansteorra] Same-Sex Consorts
> Honestly I'd like to hear what the ladies think of this argument, I've
> really only heard it
> held out by lords so far.
> Cal-
> On 10/30/2011 8:05 PM, Adam R Thompson wrote:
> > There are very capable female fighters all over the known world but
> Tivar
> > makes a very valid point. One Queen by right of Arms, and 5 Princesses
> by
> > right of arms, 4 of those ladies are in the West Kingdom. Additionally
> there are
> > currently only 33 women to ever be entered on to the roles of the
> Chivalry.
> > So one of the things that has to be considered with this argument is who
> > actually benefits. I mentioned in a previous post that the current
> system is a
> > 50/50 split male female on our thrones. This could most likely make that
> > woefully unbalanced.
> >
> > It's not the only argument I have against this but it is what relates to
> > this post.
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