[Ansteorra] Same-Sex Consorts

franchesca at bush-family.com franchesca at bush-family.com
Wed Nov 2 06:52:13 PDT 2011


My Lady Rose,

That by far was the most succinct and compelling argument I've sen so far.

Francisca Sastre de Arellano/Franchesca

On Nov 2, 2011 12:57am, Rose <rose_welch at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Well, this is my point of view, which makes it the point of view of a  
> lady (and even a Lady!) but not the point of view of all ladies (or  
> Ladies). :P





> Logically speaking, taking


> an action that purposefully and exclusively removes restrictions on a  
> specific


> subset of individuals does not arbitrarily create restrictions on another


> (albeit much larger) subset of individuals. If we lowered the minimum age  
> for


> being a Seneschal to 17, that doesn't mean we are unfairly creating a


> disadvantage for potential Seneschals 18 and above, just because we're


> increasing the available pool of candidates.





> More importantly, as a


> woman, I can never be represented by inequality and thus, am not currently


> represented by our Kings and Queens. You see,


> I'm not solely a woman. I'ma gay woman and a brown woman and a mother and  
> so


> on. I am an intersection of these things, and I accept inequality for  
> none of


> them. Further, even if I were solely a woman, and not brown or gay or a  
> mother,


> I wouldn't want the kind of representation that comes at the expense of


> equality.





> And, of course, there


> remains the fact that we have very few women with the impetus to win Crown


> Tourney, and even fewer that have same-sex consorts that also want to  
> reign. If


> we build it, maybe no one will come and nothing will change, but we will  
> still


> be a better society for providing that opportunity.











> Lady Rose the Obnoxious











> * * * * * * *








> I know that you believe you understand what you think I meant, but I'm  
> not sure you realize that what you read is not what I wrote.








> ________________________________


> From: Eric Brown caladin at bz93.com>


> To: "Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA, Inc." ansteorra at lists.ansteorra.org>


> Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2011 11:07 PM


> Subject: Re: [Ansteorra] Same-Sex Consorts








> Honestly I'd like to hear what the ladies think of this argument, I've


> really only heard it


> held out by lords so far.





> Cal-





> On 10/30/2011 8:05 PM, Adam R Thompson wrote:


> > There are very capable female fighters all over the known world but  
> Tivar


> > makes a very valid point. One Queen by right of Arms, and 5 Princesses  
> by


> > right of arms, 4 of those ladies are in the West Kingdom. Additionally  
> there are


> > currently only 33 women to ever be entered on to the roles of the  
> Chivalry.


> > So one of the things that has to be considered with this argument is who


> > actually benefits. I mentioned in a previous post that the current  
> system is a


> > 50/50 split male female on our thrones. This could most likely make that


> > woefully unbalanced.


> >


> > It's not the only argument I have against this but it is what relates to


> > this post.





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