[Ansteorra] Royalty - Same Sex Consorts‏

[Peter Wohlers]

You really have no idea what you are talking about do you? Yes a West crown banned rapier surfing their reign. They even called it a plague on the SCA. It took more that 6 months for their program to recover. It took quite a long time for it to recover. 

I am just simply pointing out the effect something like this could and would have on a community in the SCA. You seem to be running on a platform of being "fair" to one community but in doing so you are totally ok with removing the one who inspires another community and are telling us that we need to suck it up.  I am sorry but no we do not. 

This whole thing as I see it looks like this. People join a soccer team don't want to be a goalie but want to use their hands, is it right for them to ask for a rule change? A few people join a Shakespeare company but would rather do musicals, is it fair to change the whole company for those few? A few muslim students enroll at a private catholic college and want all the crosses taken down because it offends them. 
In all these cases the people that joined knew the rules and situation going in. How is it fair to the people that were already playing by the rules, to have to change their game and everything they know of it for a few that want the rules to change for them? 

You ask why my desire to worship someone in a dress should come before someone else's desires? First I have been doing mine legally within the rules of the SCA for 20 years. You should be asking the same question with as much distain as you seem to have for me, my community and our desires to those who would look to change our laws and traditions. Second because it is my right to do so. 

Don Pieter Rausch


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On Oct 31, 2011, at 10:23 AM, Bree Flowers <evethejust at gmail.com> wrote:

> You are 100% correct. I do not understand how your desire to worship
> someone in a dress should trump someone else's desire to fight for the
> one who truly inspires them. In the West Kingdom there was once a
> ruling pair that BANNED rapier. For an entire reign there was NO
> RAPIER AT ALL. If their community could survive that, I'm sure yours
> could survive an absent Queen for 6 months (on the off-chance it even
> happens, which is pretty unlikely to be honest). Of course I also
> don't understand why we all have to choose our rulers using a system
> that clearly favors healthy, athletic men and the women that they
> personally hand-pick, so there's a lot I don't understand.
> 
> And the fact remains that the law change as currently proposed simply
> removes the opposite sex consort REQUIREMENT from corpora. Individual
> kingdoms can still choose to discriminate either in their laws, or
> simply by having the crowns decide that any same-sex couple is
> "unacceptable". Ansteorra can still have the requirement that at least
> one member of the reigning couple wear skirts without preventing those
> kingdoms that want to be progressive from having their wish.
> 
> You can support this rule change and allow each Kingdom to decide what
> is best for their people and their crowns. Ansteorra doesn't need to
> change to allow other Kingdoms that option.
> 
> ~Eve
> 
> On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 12:34 AM, Peter Wohlers <donpieter at aol.com> wrote:
>> If you are asking this question then you truly do not understand the rapier community or the White Scarves of Ansteorra. The cult of Gloriana is at it's core a true love of our Queen. There is no streching creativity in that. We have a Queen and we are devout in our attention to her. Those of us who win baronial championships to try to give as much attention to the baroness of that group as we can and most try to make her feel like a Queen but in the end there is but one Queen of Ansteorra. Remove the community from the Quuen or the Queen from the community and a great loss will be felt in this kingdom.
>> Don Pieter Rausch
>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> On the off chance that two men did happen to win, why couldn't your
>>> persona worship the princess while they were on the thrones? And for
>>> the couple of months between Coronation and Crown Tournament, how
>>> about pledging your sword to a Baroness? Or enjoy some schtick where
>>> you wait for the "one true Queen" to return? Our middle name here is
>>> "Creative" after all, if the situation arises, use it as an
>>> opportunity to stretch your creativity.
>>> 
>>> ~Eve
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