[Ansteorra] Title Question

[thomas erwin]

Very interesting reading
Baron Bors of Lothian
Baron Loch Sollier
Malleus et Deus

On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 5:27 PM, Alden Drake <alden_drake at sbcglobal.net>wrote:

> Kingdom Law could be interpreted to say that current B&B's can also use the
> title "Baron/ess Placename".  It doesn't state that they can't.  They just
> can't
> use it after they step down, where the founding baron/ess can.
>
> Alden
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> From: Alden Drake <alden_drake at sbcglobal.net>
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> Subject: Re: [Ansteorra] Title Question
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> From the Corpora VIII.D.4, and SCA College of Arms Administrative Handbook
> Appendix C:
> "Baron (of placename)/ Baroness (of placename) = Ceremonial heads of a
> barony"
>
> I find no distinction between founding baron/ess and current baron/ess.
>
> From Kingdom Law, Article 3.3.1.B:"The landed nobles at the time of the
> creation
>
> of a barony are the founding baron or baroness. The founding landed nobles
> have
> the perpetual right to bear the baronial arms in canton on their own arms
> and to
>
> maintain the perpetual title "Baron or Baroness (fief).""
>
> It would appear this is an Ansteorran convention.
>
> My experience has been that:
> Baron Placename refers to the founding baron of a barony in perpetuity.
> Baron of Placename refers to the current baron of said place.
> I have heard "His Excellency Placename" used interchangeably.
>
> In service,
> Alden Drake
> Actuarius Pursuivant
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