[Ansteorra] Who are the individuals who sued the SCA?

[Ld.blackmoon]

greetings

 I hope this incident doesn't  make people less willing to have children's 
activities, or look at all children as nothing but potential problems, and 
especially in the area where this happened,( although they could have or may 
move anywhere in the world )  I  really hope it doesn't make people paranoid 
about the people with kids ( are they the ones ?? )
but at the same time I hope that parents everywhere use it as a wake up 
call, how many parents try to use the children's activities as a baby sitter 
so they can watch  or participate in things ?? how many let their kids run 
all over site , with just other kids , no supervision,no one that knows 
exactly where they are , and what they are doing , or who they are doing it 
with ??
it's really past time for all parents to be responsible for their kids at 
all times, not just when its convenient .

I some times take care of my niece, and in today's world it scares me silly 
if she's out of  my sight / hearing for more than a few min. unless I " 
know" she's with someone I trust , if someone I trust ever did something 
vile, as in this case, I'm afraid I would be going to jail for a long time, 
and they would be going someplace even smaller than a jail cell.. but I have 
no sense of humor on this subject : (
sorry, I spent 14 . 5  years as an armed guard in some of the worst parts of 
several cities, I don't even need an active imagination to know what " could 
" happen , or what " might " happen, and none of it is ever pleasant : (

Be Safe , Be Happy, Have Fun .
Arthur

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bree Flowers" <evethejust at gmail.com>
To: "Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA, Inc." <ansteorra at lists.ansteorra.org>
Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 2:13 AM
Subject: Re: [Ansteorra] Who are the individuals who sued the SCA?


Agree completely. About the only thing I'd want to know is that part
of the condition of the settlement is that neither the victims nor
their families may participate in SCA events again. I understand that
they feel hurt and betrayed and wanted restitution. But by the same
token I don't think I'd really want to be sitting next to someone at
feast that tried to bankrupt the corporation and end this game for all
of us. Yes, the children were the victims, but they were victims of
one individual, the rest of us had nothing to do with it but are being
made to bear a financial burden, so they have in a way made victims of
us all. I imagine their pain must be great enough that they wouldn't
want to come back, but I'd still want it in writing.

At the end of the day the whole situation sucks and it's all very sad.

~Eve

2012/2/5 Andreas von Meißen <scamiz at gmail.com>:
> Brian has the right of it.
> Even if I knew, I would decline to say. Naming the parents implicitly 
> names
> the children, which is colossally inappropriate and also,
> I'm fairly certain, illegal.
>
> -- AvM
>
>
> As Herr Andreas pointed out, the victims, and plaintiffs in the civil
>
> action, are minors. Also, given the particular nature of the crimes that
>> occurred against these children, there could be laws protecting their
>> identities. These are very serious laws as many victims do not want their
>> names and faces plastered all over the news.
>> It is understandable to feel anger and resentment towards these people.
>> I would tend to agree that the parents seem to be capitalizing on the
>> suffering of their own children. However, these children did suffer. We
>> must always remember that they are victims of a heinous crime. While most
>> of us will probably stand by the SCA and maintain that we did nothing
>> wrong, a wrong was actually done to these kids by a person who is now in
>> prison for those acts. We should all respect the victims in these types
>> crimes.
>> As for facts coming out, everything that needs to be known will be set
>> forth in the public record. I fail to see how the identities of the
>> children, or their parents, are of any importance. Even if only the names
>> of the parents are made public, the names of the children are then quite
>> easy to obtain. Again, let us all remember that these children were 
>> harmed
>> and respect them.
>>
>> In Service,
>> Brian O'hUilliam
>>
>
>
> --
> Andrew R. Mizener/ Herr Andreas von Meißen
> Cadet to Warder Brighid MacCumhal
> Barony of Elfsea - Nautilus Pursuivant
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