[Ansteorra] Children in the Sca

[Ld.blackmoon]

greetings

 that is a large part of the cycle of decay we seem to be in right now.
membership rates keep going up.
you keep getting less and less for your membership.( as compared to 30 years 
ago, when you got a complete anachronist, and a monthly kingdom newsletter 
with your membership card )
( if you read a large number of the posts the biggest benefit a person gets 
for paying their membership fees is that we are allowed to send more money 
to the corporation )
( the second most frequent benefit mentioned is we get to pay for insurance 
to pay others in case some one screws up at our event )
people cant afford to go to as many events as they used to, when the number 
of events drops below " x  # events " many people stop getting memberships , 
because its easier / cheaper to just pay the non member surcharge at the 1 
or 2 events that they can make per year.
and slowly the sca becomes something they do once in a while , or never .
when the survey said the main reason for attending events was to see 
friends, that should have been a big wake up call to a lot of people.

I feel that the real topics , should be
" how can we make the sca attractive to a generation of people that 
basically " live " through their technology ?  "
" how can we reduce the expense of being a member of the sca ? "
" how can we make events more of a value to attend ? "
" how do we attract new members who can afford to participate ? "
" how do we get members to return ? "

in my opinion, if the main reason to have an event is to raise money,
if the main reason to attend an event is to see friends,
then we really need to rethink a lot of what we do and why we do it.
how do we get back to where the learning and the doing were fun ?
how do we get back to when having honor, being chivalrous , and attempting 
courtly graces was something we all did,
no matter how broke we were, or whether we had any awards or not ??
( I really miss the days when I could leave my wallet and keys on my 
sleeping bag and the tent door unzipped knowing it would still be there 
untouched when I returned : (    )

sorry lots of memories : /

Be Safe , Be Happy, Have Fun .
Arthur



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bill Toscano" <liamstliam at gmail.com>
To: "Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA, Inc." <ansteorra at lists.ansteorra.org>
Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 3:18 PM
Subject: Re: [Ansteorra] Children in the Sca


>I really do not like you signing as "The Younger," because that clearly
> indicates how you think your kingdom folks should refer to this old fart
> from the East.
>
> ;)
>
> Certainly, if you go to Pennsic the membership pays for itself.
>
> But if not, it depends on the number of events you go to.
>
> There are folks out here who distrust corporate, sadly.
>
> Liam
>
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 4:10 PM, Liam Gordon 
> <cenliamgordon2005 at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Easy to answer...  You pay your membership fees, you get to stop paying 
>> the
>> NMS, get to stop signing the Waivers, and in the long run, it puts monies
>> back into the Society coffers.  The more paid members we have in the 
>> future
>> will mean more money in the coffers, period.  Maybe SCI, Inc. won't have 
>> to
>> raise members fees again...
>>
>> The Liam from Hellsgate
>> (The Younger)
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 3:04 PM, Randy Shipp <randyshipp at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 3:00 PM, Franchesca Bush <
>> franchescabush at gmail.com
>> > >wrote:
>> >
>> > > In regards to that, I'm surprised there isn't an opportunity to sign 
>> > > up
>> > for
>> > > membership at the event.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > ----------
>> > That seems like it would be an easy thing to set up.  The tougher 
>> > problem
>> > is how to convince people that it's a good idea when, as others have
>> > pointed out, the culture of the SCA has grown up without a great deal 
>> > of
>> > intrinsic value on the paid membership.  People will inevitably ask, 
>> > "Why
>> > should I sign up?"
>> >
>> > --Antoine
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