[Ansteorra] Children in the Sca

Ld.blackmoon ld.blackmoon at cox.net
Tue Feb 7 16:48:59 PST 2012 

greetings


>>> > Here is what has happened and what is to come:
> 1: Children got hurt/ ban children
> 2:A woman gets raped / ban women
> 3: SCA crashes and burns because it has become a sexist organization and 
> gets sued for Violating the civil rights of women.
> 4: SCA losses all of it holdings and those holding membership cards must 
> pay the money that SCA Corp didn't have in holdings.
>
>
> THEN WHAT!?!?! <<

 and that responds to what part of my post exactly ??
sorry , the irate response having nothing to do with my post , is a bit 
confusing : /

Be Safe , Be Happy, Have Fun .
Arthur
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Justin Wininger" <brkn_prms at hotmail.com>
To: <ansteorra at lists.ansteorra.org>
Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 5:32 PM
Subject: Re: [Ansteorra] Children in the Sca


>
> Here is what has happened and what is to come:
> 1: Children got hurt/ ban children
> 2:A woman gets raped / ban women
> 3: SCA crashes and burns because it has become a sexist organization and 
> gets sued for Violating the civil rights of women.
> 4: SCA losses all of it holdings and those holding membership cards must 
> pay the money that SCA Corp didn't have in holdings.
>
>
> THEN WHAT!?!?!
>
>
>
>
>> From: ld.blackmoon at cox.net
>> To: ansteorra at lists.ansteorra.org
>> Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 17:20:37 -0600
>> Subject: Re: [Ansteorra] Children in the Sca
>>
>> greetings
>>
>>  that is a large part of the cycle of decay we seem to be in right now.
>> membership rates keep going up.
>> you keep getting less and less for your membership.( as compared to 30 
>> years
>> ago, when you got a complete anachronist, and a monthly kingdom 
>> newsletter
>> with your membership card )
>> ( if you read a large number of the posts the biggest benefit a person 
>> gets
>> for paying their membership fees is that we are allowed to send more 
>> money
>> to the corporation )
>> ( the second most frequent benefit mentioned is we get to pay for 
>> insurance
>> to pay others in case some one screws up at our event )
>> people cant afford to go to as many events as they used to, when the 
>> number
>> of events drops below " x  # events " many people stop getting 
>> memberships ,
>> because its easier / cheaper to just pay the non member surcharge at the 
>> 1
>> or 2 events that they can make per year.
>> and slowly the sca becomes something they do once in a while , or never .
>> when the survey said the main reason for attending events was to see
>> friends, that should have been a big wake up call to a lot of people.
>>
>> I feel that the real topics , should be
>> " how can we make the sca attractive to a generation of people that
>> basically " live " through their technology ?  "
>> " how can we reduce the expense of being a member of the sca ? "
>> " how can we make events more of a value to attend ? "
>> " how do we attract new members who can afford to participate ? "
>> " how do we get members to return ? "
>>
>> in my opinion, if the main reason to have an event is to raise money,
>> if the main reason to attend an event is to see friends,
>> then we really need to rethink a lot of what we do and why we do it.
>> how do we get back to where the learning and the doing were fun ?
>> how do we get back to when having honor, being chivalrous , and 
>> attempting
>> courtly graces was something we all did,
>> no matter how broke we were, or whether we had any awards or not ??
>> ( I really miss the days when I could leave my wallet and keys on my
>> sleeping bag and the tent door unzipped knowing it would still be there
>> untouched when I returned : (    )
>>
>> sorry lots of memories : /
>>
>> Be Safe , Be Happy, Have Fun .
>> Arthur
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Bill Toscano" <liamstliam at gmail.com>
>> To: "Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA, Inc." <ansteorra at lists.ansteorra.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 3:18 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Ansteorra] Children in the Sca
>>
>>
>> >I really do not like you signing as "The Younger," because that clearly
>> > indicates how you think your kingdom folks should refer to this old 
>> > fart
>> > from the East.
>> >
>> > ;)
>> >
>> > Certainly, if you go to Pennsic the membership pays for itself.
>> >
>> > But if not, it depends on the number of events you go to.
>> >
>> > There are folks out here who distrust corporate, sadly.
>> >
>> > Liam
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 4:10 PM, Liam Gordon
>> > <cenliamgordon2005 at gmail.com>wrote:
>> >
>> >> Easy to answer...  You pay your membership fees, you get to stop 
>> >> paying
>> >> the
>> >> NMS, get to stop signing the Waivers, and in the long run, it puts 
>> >> monies
>> >> back into the Society coffers.  The more paid members we have in the
>> >> future
>> >> will mean more money in the coffers, period.  Maybe SCI, Inc. won't 
>> >> have
>> >> to
>> >> raise members fees again...
>> >>
>> >> The Liam from Hellsgate
>> >> (The Younger)
>> >>
>> >> On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 3:04 PM, Randy Shipp <randyshipp at gmail.com> 
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 3:00 PM, Franchesca Bush <
>> >> franchescabush at gmail.com
>> >> > >wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > > In regards to that, I'm surprised there isn't an opportunity to 
>> >> > > sign
>> >> > > up
>> >> > for
>> >> > > membership at the event.
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > ----------
>> >> > That seems like it would be an easy thing to set up.  The tougher
>> >> > problem
>> >> > is how to convince people that it's a good idea when, as others have
>> >> > pointed out, the culture of the SCA has grown up without a great 
>> >> > deal
>> >> > of
>> >> > intrinsic value on the paid membership.  People will inevitably ask,
>> >> > "Why
>> >> > should I sign up?"
>> >> >
>> >> > --Antoine
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