[Ansteorra] Who are the individuals who sued the SCA?

Katy pancua at gmail.com
Sun Feb 5 10:44:02 PST 2012


Thank you for this!!

--Dena

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On Feb 5, 2012, at 11:01 AM, Sir Lyonel <sirlyonel at hotmail.com> wrote:

> Salut cozyns, 
> 
> In addition to the points Herr Detlef makes, Stefan, do you realize that you've essentially damned every parent who was ever so unfortunate as to have had a child molested, abused, or harmed in any way? Do you honestly believe that parental due diligence can prevent child abuse? Short of keeping them locked in a tower until they're 18, parents cannot be 100% certain of a child's safety 100% of the time. 
> 
> You're mad at the wrong people, cozyn.  The SCA has been sinking money into insurance all these years to offset precisely this sort of unfortunate event. If you want to demand names and seek retribution, demand the name of the scumbag insurance companies who are refusing to shoulder their portion of this financial burden. 
> 
> And let's all practice a bit of chivalry toward these kids and their parents. They've been through enough.
> 
> En Lyonel
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Feb 5, 2012, at 9:14 AM, HerrDetlef <herrdetlef at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Weigh your words carefully, Stefan. Having everything in the open would
>> definitely be a noble thing, but I think your last paragraph explained the
>> second and third. The plaintiffs could easily become a collective scapegoat
>> for whatever ails the Society--not just financial woes, but also the notion
>> that we may have lost our way over the last several years, or that "things
>> are just not the same". We don't want the Society to be involved in any
>> kind of retaliation. We're doing well to get out from under this situation
>> at all. No use getting ourselves right back under it.
>> 
>> I can't speak for everybody, but I, for one, do not want to be associated
>> with a Society that goes after anybody vigilante-style. Not naming the
>> plaintiffs goes a long way in preventing that from happening. The person
>> truly responsible is behind bars. Keep that in mind.
>> 
>> In the meantime, let's be less in a hurry to react to the news and more
>> anxious to process the news deliberately and soberly. This announcement is
>> going to take a while for me to digest.
>> 
>> You're good people, Stefan. You do valuable work for the kingdom. Please
>> don't let anger consume you. Let it ennoble you instead.
>> 
>> Pax et bonum,
>> Detlef von Marburg
>> 
>> On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 12:26 AM, Stefan li Rous
>> <StefanliRous at austin.rr.com>wrote:
>> 
>>> After the announcement at the Candlemas event, during the question and
>>> answer period, I asked Master Modius if we would finally be told who the, I
>>> assume ex-SCA members were who filed the suit against the SCA, and who we
>>> are now making much richer.
>>> 
>>> His comment was to look in the official announcement. I have done so, as
>>> well as the FAQ and no where in there does it give the identity of these
>>> parents who filed the suit. If someone sees this information and I simply
>>> missed it, please let me know.
>>> 
>>> While this suit was in action, I can see where this information might be
>>> under court order of silence. The case is now closed and the facts should
>>> come out.
>>> 
>>> In my opinion, the parents who filed this suit were the ones responsible
>>> for the safety of their children. In a Society that believes in personal
>>> responsibility and honor, blaming someone else because you weren't careful
>>> where your children were or shirked your responsibility to check out who
>>> you left them with isn't what we say we stand for.
>>> 
>>> Thank you.
>>> 
>>> Stefan
>>> 
>>> --------
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