[Ansteorra] Children in the Sca

Tue Feb 7 15:32:38 PST 2012

Here is what has happened and what is to come:
1: Children got hurt/ ban children
2:A woman gets raped / ban women
3: SCA crashes and burns because it has become a sexist organization and gets sued for Violating the civil rights of women.
4: SCA losses all of it holdings and those holding membership cards must pay the money that SCA Corp didn't have in holdings.

THEN WHAT!?!?! 

> From: ld.blackmoon at cox.net
> To: ansteorra at lists.ansteorra.org
> Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 17:20:37 -0600
> Subject: Re: [Ansteorra] Children in the Sca
> 
> greetings
> 
>  that is a large part of the cycle of decay we seem to be in right now.
> membership rates keep going up.
> you keep getting less and less for your membership.( as compared to 30 years 
> ago, when you got a complete anachronist, and a monthly kingdom newsletter 
> with your membership card )
> ( if you read a large number of the posts the biggest benefit a person gets 
> for paying their membership fees is that we are allowed to send more money 
> to the corporation )
> ( the second most frequent benefit mentioned is we get to pay for insurance 
> to pay others in case some one screws up at our event )
> people cant afford to go to as many events as they used to, when the number 
> of events drops below " x  # events " many people stop getting memberships , 
> because its easier / cheaper to just pay the non member surcharge at the 1 
> or 2 events that they can make per year.
> and slowly the sca becomes something they do once in a while , or never .
> when the survey said the main reason for attending events was to see 
> friends, that should have been a big wake up call to a lot of people.
> 
> I feel that the real topics , should be
> " how can we make the sca attractive to a generation of people that 
> basically " live " through their technology ?  "
> " how can we reduce the expense of being a member of the sca ? "
> " how can we make events more of a value to attend ? "
> " how do we attract new members who can afford to participate ? "
> " how do we get members to return ? "
> 
> in my opinion, if the main reason to have an event is to raise money,
> if the main reason to attend an event is to see friends,
> then we really need to rethink a lot of what we do and why we do it.
> how do we get back to where the learning and the doing were fun ?
> how do we get back to when having honor, being chivalrous , and attempting 
> courtly graces was something we all did,
> no matter how broke we were, or whether we had any awards or not ??
> ( I really miss the days when I could leave my wallet and keys on my 
> sleeping bag and the tent door unzipped knowing it would still be there 
> untouched when I returned : (    )
> 
> sorry lots of memories : /
> 
> Be Safe , Be Happy, Have Fun .
> Arthur
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Bill Toscano" <liamstliam at gmail.com>
> To: "Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA, Inc." <ansteorra at lists.ansteorra.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 3:18 PM
> Subject: Re: [Ansteorra] Children in the Sca
> 
> 
> >I really do not like you signing as "The Younger," because that clearly
> > indicates how you think your kingdom folks should refer to this old fart
> > from the East.
> >
> > ;)
> >
> > Certainly, if you go to Pennsic the membership pays for itself.
> >
> > But if not, it depends on the number of events you go to.
> >
> > There are folks out here who distrust corporate, sadly.
> >
> > Liam
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 4:10 PM, Liam Gordon 
> > <cenliamgordon2005 at gmail.com>wrote:
> >
> >> Easy to answer...  You pay your membership fees, you get to stop paying 
> >> the
> >> NMS, get to stop signing the Waivers, and in the long run, it puts monies
> >> back into the Society coffers.  The more paid members we have in the 
> >> future
> >> will mean more money in the coffers, period.  Maybe SCI, Inc. won't have 
> >> to
> >> raise members fees again...
> >>
> >> The Liam from Hellsgate
> >> (The Younger)
> >>
> >> On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 3:04 PM, Randy Shipp <randyshipp at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> > On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 3:00 PM, Franchesca Bush <
> >> franchescabush at gmail.com
> >> > >wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > In regards to that, I'm surprised there isn't an opportunity to sign 
> >> > > up
> >> > for
> >> > > membership at the event.
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > ----------
> >> > That seems like it would be an easy thing to set up.  The tougher 
> >> > problem
> >> > is how to convince people that it's a good idea when, as others have
> >> > pointed out, the culture of the SCA has grown up without a great deal 
> >> > of
> >> > intrinsic value on the paid membership.  People will inevitably ask, 
> >> > "Why
> >> > should I sign up?"
> >> >
> >> > --Antoine
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