[Ansteorra] iso european dancers ??

Tue Feb 14 11:30:34 PST 2012

The group dances require... well... a group, but there were many dances in late period that were just for two dancers (and they weren't even lord/lady pairs). We don't have many surviving choreographies form them, but those dances tended to be one-off things anyway and you would have a dancing mater create a new choreography for the next event. I also haven't seen much in the way of improvisation in dance, another thing that was common at that point in time. The court dances are what evolved into ballet, and there is a lot of untapped technique and opportunity to be found in them.

--As Zorzi

On Feb 14, 2012, at 13:20, Laura Young <laura.young.9191 at gmail.com> wrote:

> One of the reasons I would think it would be difficult to award a Eurodance
> title is that they are all (I believe) group dances, needing at least four
> people.  How would you choose a single person as a winner?  The number of
> people needed, and the requirement of multiples of two, four, or six, is
> probably also one of the contributing factors towards its drop in
> popularity.  As far as garb goes, if you were competing I guess you should
> have late period (=expensive) garb, but at K A&S there were people in early
> garb, late garb, and a couple of newcomers.  I don't think the basic steps
> are hard to learn.  Doing them with skill, grace, and panache, well, that's
> another story :)  As to the Lords vs Ladies, we had 3, I think, Lords out
> of a groups that varied from 8-12 dancers.
> 
> Beonne
> 
> On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 1:04 PM, Ld.blackmoon <ld.blackmoon at cox.net> wrote:
> 
>> greetings
>> 
>> ahh, ok, thank you .
>> it sounds like most of the European dancers live in the south of
>> ansteorra.( at least from the responses so far )
>> and since there is no kingdom European dance competition, I have to assume
>> that there is much less interest in that than there is in middle eastern
>> dancing , for which there is a kingdom championship / title .
>> are there any thoughts as to why this would be so ?
>> is it based on what time and place your persona lived , so that others
>> feel they can't participate without the " proper garb ?
>> is it very hard to learn such courtly graces ?? ( especially if you were
>> born with no rhythm and two left feet ? )
>> is it the " shameful " public strutting between lord and lady ??
>> 
>> or perhaps on how to gather new participants??
>> I know the few times i've seen European dances, all the dancers were
>> dressed in what looked like very expensive garb, is there a cost barrier ?
>> 
>> anyway , just an opinionated old fart sticking his nose into something new
>> ; )
>> thanks again
>> 
>> Be Safe , Be Happy, Have Fun .
>> Arthur
>> 
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: <myfanwy at pug.net>
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>> Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2012 8:30 AM
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>> Subject: Re: [Ansteorra] iso european dancers ??
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>> 
>> In Bryn Gwlad, we have an active dance practice that regularly has 20ish
>>> people or so in attendance.  Shadowlands also has a group of dancers.  As
>>> somebody stated, Bryn Gwlad's Candlemas has started a tradition of having
>>> dances between the removes of feast.  Shadowlands has started regularly
>>> having a small event that has dancing.  Gulf Wars, every night there is
>>> dancing.  Same with Pennsic.  They have many people at the balls.  Pennsic
>>> the classes are usually fairly busy also. There are a few dancers in other
>>> places, but those are the active guilds that I know about.  As dancing is a
>>> social activity, we are always willing to teach you whatever dance we know!
>>> 
>>> Myfanwy
>>> 
>>> On Feb 13, 2012, at 12:11 PM, Ld.blackmoon wrote:
>>> 
>>> greetings
>>>> 
>>>> as part of a conversation earlier today, it was mentioned that there are
>>>> people that practice dances from the sca's primary time / place  ( pre 16th
>>>> century european countries )
>>>> i being poorly designed for dancing of any type ( having 2 left feet )
>>>> was curious as to how many and how far apart those individuals , or groups
>>>> may currently be ?
>>>> also of interest , are there any events that showcase such period
>>>> endevors ??
>>>> 
>>>> thank you in advance
>>>> your friendly opinionated old fart ; )
>>>> Be Safe , Be Happy, Have Fun .
>>>> Arthur
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