[Ansteorra] Participation vs. Recruitment
Rose
rose_welch at yahoo.com
Tue Jan 24 13:40:03 PST 2012
Local chroniclers have enough problems getting local folks to submit to *them*, much less higher up the chain. :P
-R the O
* * * * * * * Ars longa, vita brevis, occasio praeceps, experimentum periculosum, iudicium difficile. ~Hippocrates
>________________________________
> From: HerrDetlef <herrdetlef at gmail.com>
>To: "Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA, Inc." <ansteorra at lists.ansteorra.org>
>Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 2:48 PM
>Subject: Re: [Ansteorra] Participation vs. Recruitment
>
>That would only be an incentive to weekend SCA'ers.
>
>Any thoughts about local chroniclers encouraging their submitters to
>consider submitting to the *Black Star*?
>
>Detlef again (and off to teach classes)
>
>On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 2:39 PM, Jessica Doss <jdennison6913 at yahoo.com>wrote:
>
>> maybe include one "gift" site fee per year with paid membership. Up to a
>> set amount.... Johanna of Bjornsborg
>>
>> HerrDetlef <herrdetlef at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >No, that won't work.....raising the price of membership will not encourage
>> >people to become members.
>> >
>> ><beats head on desk>
>> >
>> >On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 2:10 PM, HerrDetlef <herrdetlef at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Can we raise the price of a sustaining membership to include a
>> >> subscription to *Tournaments Illuminated*?
>> >>
>> >> Detlef
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 2:06 PM, Sir Lyonel <sirlyonel at hotmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> I agree, cozyn. The corporation has really hogtied us with the changes
>> to
>> >>> what a subscribing membership gets you. We should have tanked the
>> >>> corporation years ago.
>> >>>
>> >>> About the only remaining argument in favor of memberships is the
>> "support
>> >>> your local group" tack, but even I no longer accept that.
>> >>>
>> >>> Tant pis.
>> >>>
>> >>> En Lyonel
>> >>>
>> >>> Sent from my iPhone
>> >>>
>> >>> On Jan 24, 2012, at 1:27 PM, HerrDetlef <herrdetlef at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> > Not so much analysis as raw data. Draw whatever conclusions you can.
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Participation is indeed based on memberships. The problem is that
>> only
>> >>> > officers and weekend SCA'ers (who go to calendar events outside of
>> their
>> >>> > local groups) benefit from subscribing memberships. Exactly how do we
>> >>> > encourage weekday SCA'ers who are not officers (who go almost
>> >>> exclusively
>> >>> > only to events within their local groups) to subscribe? We can't
>> exactly
>> >>> > tack a non-member surcharge to weekday events, because the vast
>> >>> majority of
>> >>> > them do not involve a site fee.
>> >>> >
>> >>> > When I first subscribed as a member of the SCA, the sustaining
>> >>> membership
>> >>> > included a subscription to *Tournaments Illuminated*. That quarterly
>> was
>> >>> > worth the price of membership itself. Without that subscription, a
>> >>> > sustaining membership is little more than a qualification to hold
>> office
>> >>> > and a way to dodge a non-member surcharge. The information presented
>> in
>> >>> a
>> >>> > kingdom newsletter like *Black Star* benefits weekend SCA'ers and
>> >>> officers
>> >>> > far more than it does weekday SCA'ers. There is not much incentive
>> for a
>> >>> > weekday SCA'er to become a subscribing member.
>> >>> >
>> >>> > The price of a sustaining membership in the SCA--including the recent
>> >>> > increases--is still far lower than the price of membership in most
>> >>> > professional and academic organizations, but I doubt that many
>> younger
>> >>> > newcomers to the SCA can appreciate that fact. If we are able to
>> >>> encourage
>> >>> > weekday SCA'ers to become subscribing members, local groups would be
>> >>> able
>> >>> > to maintain their required membership numbers, and the generated
>> revenue
>> >>> > would allow increases in the price of membership to be lower than
>> they
>> >>> have
>> >>> > been in the recent past.
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Again--how do we do that? Do we make subscribing memberships more
>> >>> > beneficial to weekday SCA'ers, or do we find some means other than
>> >>> > membership numbers alone to measure participation?
>> >>> >
>> >>> > I'm only asking questions. I really don't have any answers. I wish I
>> >>> did.
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Detlef
>> >>> >
>> >>> > On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 10:11 AM, Sir Lyonel <sirlyonel at hotmail.com>
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>> >
>> >>> >> Salut cozyns,
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >
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>> >> þeodcyninga, þrym gefrunon,
>> >> hu ða æþelingas ellen fremedon.
>> >> Oft Scyld Scefing sceaþena þreatum,
>> >> monegum mægþum, meodosetla ofteah,
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>> >> feasceaft funden, he þæs frofre gebad,
>> >> weox under wolcnum, weorðmyndum þah,
>> >> oðþæt him æghwylc þara ymbsittendra
>> >> ofer hronrade hyran scolde,
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>> >Hwæt! We Gardena in geardagum,
>> >þeodcyninga, þrym gefrunon,
>> >hu ða æþelingas ellen fremedon.
>> >Oft Scyld Scefing sceaþena þreatum,
>> >monegum mægþum, meodosetla ofteah,
>> >egsode eorlas. Syððan ærest wearð
>> >feasceaft funden, he þæs frofre gebad,
>> >weox under wolcnum, weorðmyndum þah,
>> >oðþæt him æghwylc þara ymbsittendra
>> >ofer hronrade hyran scolde,
>> >gomban gyldan. þæt wæs god cyning!
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>Hwæt! We Gardena in geardagum,
>þeodcyninga, þrym gefrunon,
>hu ða æþelingas ellen fremedon.
>Oft Scyld Scefing sceaþena þreatum,
>monegum mægþum, meodosetla ofteah,
>egsode eorlas. Syððan ærest wearð
>feasceaft funden, he þæs frofre gebad,
>weox under wolcnum, weorðmyndum þah,
>oðþæt him æghwylc þara ymbsittendra
>ofer hronrade hyran scolde,
>gomban gyldan. þæt wæs god cyning!
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