[Ansteorra] Participation vs. Recruitment

[Biatrichi Di Palermo]

My local chroniclers do an excellent job recruiting content for the local newsletters.  I feel lucky to see them all.

Bia

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On Jan 24, 2012, at 2:48 PM, HerrDetlef <herrdetlef at gmail.com> wrote:

> That would only be an incentive to weekend SCA'ers.
> 
> Any thoughts about local chroniclers encouraging their submitters to
> consider submitting to the *Black Star*?
> 
> Detlef again (and off to teach classes)
> 
> On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 2:39 PM, Jessica Doss <jdennison6913 at yahoo.com>wrote:
> 
>> maybe include one "gift" site fee per year with paid membership.  Up to a
>> set amount....   Johanna of Bjornsborg
>> 
>> HerrDetlef <herrdetlef at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> No, that won't work.....raising the price of membership will not encourage
>>> people to become members.
>>> 
>>> <beats head on desk>
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 2:10 PM, HerrDetlef <herrdetlef at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Can we raise the price of a sustaining membership to include a
>>>> subscription to *Tournaments Illuminated*?
>>>> 
>>>> Detlef
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 2:06 PM, Sir Lyonel <sirlyonel at hotmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> I agree, cozyn. The corporation has really hogtied us with the changes
>> to
>>>>> what a subscribing membership gets you. We should have tanked the
>>>>> corporation years ago.
>>>>> 
>>>>> About the only remaining argument in favor of memberships is the
>> "support
>>>>> your local group" tack, but even I no longer accept that.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Tant pis.
>>>>> 
>>>>> En Lyonel
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Jan 24, 2012, at 1:27 PM, HerrDetlef <herrdetlef at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Not so much analysis as raw data. Draw whatever conclusions you can.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Participation is indeed based on memberships. The problem is that
>> only
>>>>>> officers and weekend SCA'ers (who go to calendar events outside of
>> their
>>>>>> local groups) benefit from subscribing memberships. Exactly how do we
>>>>>> encourage weekday SCA'ers who are not officers (who go almost
>>>>> exclusively
>>>>>> only to events within their local groups) to subscribe? We can't
>> exactly
>>>>>> tack a non-member surcharge to weekday events, because the vast
>>>>> majority of
>>>>>> them do not involve a site fee.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> When I first subscribed as a member of the SCA, the sustaining
>>>>> membership
>>>>>> included a subscription to *Tournaments Illuminated*. That quarterly
>> was
>>>>>> worth the price of membership itself. Without that subscription, a
>>>>>> sustaining membership is little more than a qualification to hold
>> office
>>>>>> and a way to dodge a non-member surcharge. The information presented
>> in
>>>>> a
>>>>>> kingdom newsletter like *Black Star* benefits weekend SCA'ers and
>>>>> officers
>>>>>> far more than it does weekday SCA'ers. There is not much incentive
>> for a
>>>>>> weekday SCA'er to become a subscribing member.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The price of a sustaining membership in the SCA--including the recent
>>>>>> increases--is still far lower than the price of membership in most
>>>>>> professional and academic organizations, but I doubt that many
>> younger
>>>>>> newcomers to the SCA can appreciate that fact. If we are able to
>>>>> encourage
>>>>>> weekday SCA'ers to become subscribing members, local groups would be
>>>>> able
>>>>>> to maintain their required membership numbers, and the generated
>> revenue
>>>>>> would allow increases in the price of membership to be lower than
>> they
>>>>> have
>>>>>> been in the recent past.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Again--how do we do that? Do we make subscribing memberships more
>>>>>> beneficial to weekday SCA'ers, or do we find some means other than
>>>>>> membership numbers alone to measure participation?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I'm only asking questions. I really don't have any answers. I wish I
>>>>> did.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Detlef
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 10:11 AM, Sir Lyonel <sirlyonel at hotmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Salut cozyns,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
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> Hwæt! We Gardena         in geardagum,
> þeodcyninga,         þrym gefrunon,
> hu ða æþelingas         ellen fremedon.
> Oft Scyld Scefing         sceaþena þreatum,
> monegum mægþum,         meodosetla ofteah,
> egsode eorlas.         Syððan ærest wearð
> feasceaft funden,         he þæs frofre gebad,
> weox under wolcnum,         weorðmyndum þah,
> oðþæt him æghwylc         þara ymbsittendra
> ofer hronrade         hyran scolde,
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