[Ansteorra] Participation vs. Recruitment

[jmclark85@gmail.com]

How about we do away with the NMS and SCA level memberships, and just have a certain percentage of kingdom level events go to support the corporation, and then allow individual dues to be collected amd administered at the Baronial level?

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From: "HerrDetlef" <herrdetlef at gmail.com>
To: "Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA, Inc." <ansteorra at lists.ansteorra.org>
Subject: [Ansteorra] Participation vs. Recruitment
Date: Tue, Jan 24, 2012 2:27 pm


No, that won't work.....raising the price of membership will not encourage
people to become members.

<beats head on desk>

On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 2:10 PM, HerrDetlef <herrdetlef at gmail.com> wrote:

> Can we raise the price of a sustaining membership to include a
> subscription to *Tournaments Illuminated*?
>
> Detlef
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 2:06 PM, Sir Lyonel <sirlyonel at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I agree, cozyn. The corporation has really hogtied us with the changes to
>> what a subscribing membership gets you. We should have tanked the
>> corporation years ago.
>>
>> About the only remaining argument in favor of memberships is the "support
>> your local group" tack, but even I no longer accept that.
>>
>> Tant pis.
>>
>> En Lyonel
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Jan 24, 2012, at 1:27 PM, HerrDetlef <herrdetlef at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > Not so much analysis as raw data. Draw whatever conclusions you can.
>> >
>> > Participation is indeed based on memberships. The problem is that only
>> > officers and weekend SCA'ers (who go to calendar events outside of their
>> > local groups) benefit from subscribing memberships. Exactly how do we
>> > encourage weekday SCA'ers who are not officers (who go almost
>> exclusively
>> > only to events within their local groups) to subscribe? We can't exactly
>> > tack a non-member surcharge to weekday events, because the vast
>> majority of
>> > them do not involve a site fee.
>> >
>> > When I first subscribed as a member of the SCA, the sustaining
>> membership
>> > included a subscription to *Tournaments Illuminated*. That quarterly was
>> > worth the price of membership itself. Without that subscription, a
>> > sustaining membership is little more than a qualification to hold office
>> > and a way to dodge a non-member surcharge. The information presented in
>> a
>> > kingdom newsletter like *Black Star* benefits weekend SCA'ers and
>> officers
>> > far more than it does weekday SCA'ers. There is not much incentive for a
>> > weekday SCA'er to become a subscribing member.
>> >
>> > The price of a sustaining membership in the SCA--including the recent
>> > increases--is still far lower than the price of membership in most
>> > professional and academic organizations, but I doubt that many younger
>> > newcomers to the SCA can appreciate that fact. If we are able to
>> encourage
>> > weekday SCA'ers to become subscribing members, local groups would be
>> able
>> > to maintain their required membership numbers, and the generated revenue
>> > would allow increases in the price of membership to be lower than they
>> have
>> > been in the recent past.
>> >
>> > Again--how do we do that? Do we make subscribing memberships more
>> > beneficial to weekday SCA'ers, or do we find some means other than
>> > membership numbers alone to measure participation?
>> >
>> > I'm only asking questions. I really don't have any answers. I wish I
>> did.
>> >
>> > Detlef
>> >
>> > On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 10:11 AM, Sir Lyonel <sirlyonel at hotmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Salut cozyns,
>> >>
>> >
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Hwæt! We Gardena         in geardagum,
þeodcyninga,         þrym gefrunon,
hu ða æþelingas         ellen fremedon.
Oft Scyld Scefing         sceaþena þreatum,
monegum mægþum,         meodosetla ofteah,
egsode eorlas.         Syððan ærest wearð
feasceaft funden,         he þæs frofre gebad,
weox under wolcnum,         weorðmyndum þah,
oðþæt him æghwylc         þara ymbsittendra
ofer hronrade         hyran scolde,
gomban gyldan.         þæt wæs god cyning!
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