[Ansteorra] Same-Gender Consort Proposal

Rose rose_welch at yahoo.com
Wed Jul 18 19:53:36 PDT 2012

Pardon me, Master Tivar. I apologize for cropping your quote. I generally try to trim my posts to the relevant bits, since we are frequently extolled to do so for the folks on digest, but in retrospect, I really didn't need to crop that far. I will try to be more careful about that in the future. (No sarcasm here, just FYI. Taking things out of context is an ethical no-no that I try to avoid.)

You might note, however, that my point stands, even with the complete quote. The M/F-on-ID cards in no way guarantees you a Queen. It only guarantees you two people with M/F on their ID cards. They may have male plumbing, female plumbing, both, or neither. They may dress in traditional male/female dress, only female, only male, or regal houppelandes. (I'd like that; I think houppelandes are very stately garments, and from a time period I like.) But it doesn't guarantee a Queen.


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> From: Chris Zakes <dontivar at gmail.com>
>To: "Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA, Inc." <ansteorra at lists.ansteorra.org> 
>Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2012 9:34 PM
>Subject: Re: [Ansteorra] Same-Gender Consort Proposal
>At 02:15 PM 7/18/2012, you wrote:
>>On Wed, 18 Jul 2012, Rose <rose_welch at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>Tim McDaniel said: "I *really* don't like the idea of not having a
>>No, Tivar wrote that and I just quoted him.  I don't have a problem
>>with it at all.
>>Daniel Lincoln, once baronial herald for Baron Edwin FitzLloyd, who
>>had no baroness
>>Tim McDaniel, tmcd at panix.com
>And if you're going to misquote me, at least have the courtesy to use 
>the *entire* statement, don't cut-and-paste to misrepresent what I said:
>"And as a rapier fighter, White Scarf, leader of the Legion of 
>Swashbucklers and Elisabethan gentleman, I *really* don't like the 
>idea of not having a Queen."
>         -Tivar Moondragon 
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