[Ansteorra] Same-Gender Consort Proposal

Patrick R tex_yankee2004 at yahoo.com
Tue Jul 17 22:48:34 PDT 2012


Very well said thanks. 
Dante

From: John Moore <iaenmor at swbell.net>
To: Brandon McDermott <brandonsmcd at yahoo.com>; "Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA, Inc." <ansteorra at lists.ansteorra.org> 
Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2012 6:50 PM
Subject: Re: [Ansteorra] Same-Gender Consort Proposal

Well said.  I honestly don't care who/whom rules this Kingdom as long as 
they do it well.

Iaen Mor

On 7/17/2012 10:29 AM, Brandon McDermott wrote:
> Current language reads: 
> Each competitor in a Royal List must be fighting for a consort of the opposite gender.
>
> New Proposed Language:
> Each
>  competitor in a Royal List must be fighting for a prospective consort
> of the opposite sex unless the Crown has elected to permit a competitor
> to fight for a prospective consort of the same sex.
> .....................................................................
>
>
> Use of the terms "Same Sex"&
> "Opposite Sex" are at the moment inflammatory / controversial / immoral / etc.. to certain groups, so why use it? I believe we should remove
> words to clarify, not add. Simplicity is key.
>
> Why not simply say :
> Each competitor and consort in a Royal List must be acceptable to the Crown.
>
> Or:
> Each competitor and consort in a Royal List must be acceptable to the Crown regardless of gender.
>
> Or:
> Each competitor must fight for a consort in a Royal List. Both must be acceptable to the Crown.
>
> Or:
> Each competitor must fight for a consort in a Royal List. Both must be acceptable to the Crown regardless of gender.
>
> ......................................................................
>
> However, whereas there are few examples of same sex rulers, most of whom were Father&  Son, and those that were lovers were more akin to our Baron and Baronesses rather than King&  King (there are no examples of two women ruling together that I am aware of, though my knowledge in this is limited). There are a number of examples of unwed Monarchs. The list below is soley British and it includes 10 examples in period.
>
> Æthelberht(Æþelberht) 21 December 860–865
>
>
> Ælfweard[17] July-August 924[18]
>
> Æthelstan(Æþelstan) 924 /925–939[22]Rex Anglorum from 927
>
> Edward the Martyr(Eadweard) 9 July 975–978[31]
>
> Harthacnut  (Hardeknud) 17 March 1040 – 8 June 1042[42]
>
> Edgar the Ætheling(Eadgar Æþeling) 15 October – 17 December 1066 Proclaimed, but never crowned[44]
>
> William IIWilliam Rufus (Guillaume le Roux) 26 September 1087–1100
>
> Edward V 9 April – 25 June 1483[51]
>
> Edward VI 28 January 1547–1553
>
> Elizabeth I 17 November 1558–1603
>
> I therefore propose that the need for a consort be removed entirely. If we are entertaining the far less likely and less documentable "Same Sex" rulers, why not allow for the far more common and certainly documentable individual ruler?
>
> Current language reads: 
> Each competitor in a Royal List must be fighting for a consort of the opposite gender.
>
> New Proposed Language:
> Each competitor in a Royal List must be acceptable to the Crown. If competing with a consort, they too must be acceptable to the Crown.
>
>
>
> YIS
>
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