[Ansteorra] Not as it was, but as it should have been

Hywel Penbras hywelpenbras at yahoo.com
Fri Jul 20 13:42:23 PDT 2012


I don't like cats
Never have never will
They are not friendly
They are not cute


Cats suck,
Dogs rock

Angus

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On Jul 19, 2012, at 22:53, Don Pieter <donpieter at yahoo.com> wrote:

I used the term kitten because this topic beat the dead horse the last time it was brought up and because I had hoped everyone would like kittens and would want to stop beating them. I guess I partly right. People have stopped going on about "the topic" and have moved on to how they have the right to repeat themselves as much as they want to hear themselves speak (web minister please note that was not a personal attack but a general statement if anyone was offended by that it is due to their own guilty conscience not due to personal attack). And how because it is their right to do so the rest of us must overuse our delete key to make them happy  So there is no need to tell me to check my history. I knew all about the horse and your over sensitivity does not trump my ability to use the image of kittens. 

Pieter

Cave quid dicis, quando, et cui
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On Jul 19, 2012, at 10:27 PM, "Noble Field" <noble at delafyeld.com> wrote:

>  Please, the analogy of an interminable, sensless discussion to 'beating a dead kitten', is horrible, especially since I am a member of a cat rescue group, and have several foster kittens I am raising until they are old enough to put up for adoption.  We would never beat a dead one.  Anyway, the proper phrase is 'beating a dead horse'.  As in a dray animal who was driven unmercifully until it died, and the drover continuede to beat it trying to get it up and moving.  Check your history.
>                   Bre'nan MacGiolla Pa'draig
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> *** A pet makes all the difference between coming home to an empty house.... and coming home. (unknown)
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> *** No one can ever win an argument with a cat. (unknown)
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> *** Animals are such agreeable friends - they ask no questions, and they pass no criticisms.  (George Eliot)
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> *** There are two means of refuge from the miseries of life: music and cats. (Albert Schweitzer)
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> *** Coincidence is God's way of remaining anonymous. (Albert Einstein)
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> *** A man who carries a cat by the tail learns something he can learn in no other way. (Mark Twain)
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> *** Cats always know whether someone likes or dislikes them.  They do not always care enough to do anything about it. (Winifred Carriere)
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> *** You can't own a cat.  The best you can do is be partners. (Sir Harry Swanson)
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> --- donpieter at yahoo.com wrote:
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> From: Don Pieter <donpieter at yahoo.com>
> To: "Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA, Inc." <ansteorra at lists.ansteorra.org>
> Subject: [Ansteorra] Beating a dead kitten
> Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2012 16:43:18 -0500
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> Discussion? Or beating a dead kitten? This is the second time this year that this topic was brought up and it has gone the same way both time with the exact same people on the pro and con sides. 
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> The bod asked for your input. My inbox didn't. 
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> Take any angle at this you want but you're not going to change minds one way or the other on this list. 
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> Any "discussion" about this kitten after this will solely be looked at as people wanting to hear themselves talk for no other reason than to enjoy the sound of their own voice. 
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> So start your letters to the bod and please stop beating this dead kitten. 
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> Thank you
> Pieter 
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> Cave quid dicis, quando, et cui
> Sent from my iPhone
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> On Jul 19, 2012, at 4:32 PM, Salvador Ordoñez <salvadorthespaniard at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> The list is a place for discussion. 
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>> Derek Harris (via iPhone)
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>> On Jul 19, 2012, at 4:28 PM, David Brown <lddevin03 at yahoo.com> wrote:
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>>> Don Pieter and myself asked earlier for this thread to stop.
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>>> HL Devin
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>>> ________________________________
>>> From: "charlescalhoun at sbcglobal.net" <charlescalhoun at sbcglobal.net>
>>> To: Angus MacKnochard <glnn_jhn at yahoo.com>; "Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA,Inc." <ansteorra at lists.ansteorra.org> 
>>> Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2012 2:25 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Ansteorra] Stop Eating; I'm Full!
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>>> Thank you I was hoping some one would suggest an end to this thread.                                           Lady Arabella from Eldern :)
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>>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>> On Jul 19, 2012, at 4:08 PM, Angus MacKnochard <glnn_jhn at yahoo.com> wrote:
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>>>> But we are forced to participate.
>>>> 100+ emails a day I have to sort thru and delete.
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>>>> If you are still needing/wanting to discuss it, 
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>>>> Reply only to those that are still discussing it,
>>>> Make your own list dedicated to this subject
>>>> what ever you want, there are ways to take it off the main list and still carry on the conversation. thats part of the beauty of this series of tubes
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>>>> please remember that not everyone here has time for this volume of emails. and those on digest are getting overloaded.
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>>>> thanks
>>>> Angus MacKnochard Bagadur
>>>> ANDA GDH
>>>> KSCA
>>>> CSS LXVIII, 
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>>>> snerta er vald
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>>>>> ________________________________
>>>>> From: Bill Tait <arwemakere at gmail.com>
>>>>> To: "Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA, Inc." <ansteorra at lists.ansteorra.org> 
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2012 4:00 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Ansteorra] Stop Eating; I'm Full!
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>>>>> Great, now I'm hungry again.
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>>>>> William
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>>>>> On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 1:50 PM, Rose <rose_welch at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>> I will never understand the calls for others to end a conversation because you're tired of it. That seems akin to asking someone else to stop eating because I'm full.
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>>>>>> A real world equivalent would be a conversation in an event hall. If I get bored or upset with one of those conversations, I would never ask the other participants to stop discussing it. Instead, I would simply not participate in that conversation any more.
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>>>>>> It's even easier online, because I can simply click that delete button rather than having to just pretend not to hear the other conversations.
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>>>>>> In short, I understand that some of you might be full, but the rest of us aren't done with our meal yet. Please respect our right to continue this conversation. Thank you.
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>>>>>> ~Lady Rose de la Rose
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>>>>>> Ars longa, vita brevis, occasio praeceps, experimentum periculosum, iudicium difficile. ~Hippocrates
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>>>>>>> ________________________________
>>>>>>> From: Alma Danks <wenchalma at yahoo.com>
>>>>>>> To: "Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA, Inc." <ansteorra at lists.ansteorra.org>
>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2012 3:33 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Ansteorra] Same-Gender Consort Proposal
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Oh my, I can't take this anymore. My e-mail is filled with this topic. Life is about change, I'm not sure how I feel about this, but I know that there isn't much we can do about it. I will support the crown, as long as they serve the kingdom. But I don't believe this conversation is helping anyone. The SCA is composed of folks from different cultures, religions and beliefs. We will never all agree on topics, but should respect each others decisions. We are family.
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