[Ansteorra] Same-Gender Consort Proposal

James Crouchet james at crouchet.com
Wed Jul 18 16:44:01 PDT 2012


I like #3, i.e. " Each competitor must fight for a consort in a Royal List.
Both must be acceptable to the Crown." Simple language is better.

Doré

On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 10:29 AM, Brandon McDermott
<brandonsmcd at yahoo.com>wrote:

> Current language reads:
> Each competitor in a Royal List must be fighting for a consort of the
> opposite gender.
>
> New Proposed Language:
> Each
>  competitor in a Royal List must be fighting for a prospective consort
> of the opposite sex unless the Crown has elected to permit a competitor
> to fight for a prospective consort of the same sex.
> .....................................................................
>
>
> Use of the terms "Same Sex" &
> "Opposite Sex" are at the moment inflammatory / controversial / immoral /
> etc.. to certain groups, so why use it? I believe we should remove
> words to clarify, not add. Simplicity is key.
>
> Why not simply say :
> Each competitor and consort in a Royal List must be acceptable to the
> Crown.
>
> Or:
> Each competitor and consort in a Royal List must be acceptable to the
> Crown regardless of gender.
>
> Or:
> Each competitor must fight for a consort in a Royal List. Both must be
> acceptable to the Crown.
>
> Or:
> Each competitor must fight for a consort in a Royal List. Both must be
> acceptable to the Crown regardless of gender.
>
> ......................................................................
>
> However, whereas there are few examples of same sex rulers, most of whom
> were Father & Son, and those that were lovers were more akin to our Baron
> and Baronesses rather than King & King (there are no examples of two women
> ruling together that I am aware of, though my knowledge in this is
> limited). There are a number of examples of unwed Monarchs. The list below
> is soley British and it includes 10 examples in period.
>
> Æthelberht(Æþelberht) 21 December 860–865
>
>
> Ælfweard[17] July-August 924[18]
>
> Æthelstan(Æþelstan) 924 /925–939[22]Rex Anglorum from 927
>
> Edward the Martyr(Eadweard) 9 July 975–978[31]
>
> Harthacnut  (Hardeknud) 17 March 1040 – 8 June 1042[42]
>
> Edgar the Ætheling(Eadgar Æþeling) 15 October – 17 December 1066
> Proclaimed, but never crowned[44]
>
> William IIWilliam Rufus (Guillaume le Roux) 26 September 1087–1100
>
> Edward V 9 April – 25 June 1483[51]
>
> Edward VI 28 January 1547–1553
>
> Elizabeth I 17 November 1558–1603
>
> I therefore propose that the need for a consort be removed entirely. If we
> are entertaining the far less likely and less documentable "Same Sex"
> rulers, why not allow for the far more common and certainly documentable
> individual ruler?
>
> Current language reads:
> Each competitor in a Royal List must be fighting for a consort of the
> opposite gender.
>
> New Proposed Language:
> Each competitor in a Royal List must be acceptable to the Crown. If
> competing with a consort, they too must be acceptable to the Crown.
>
>
>
> YIS
>
> Count Lochlan Dunn
> Ansteorra
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