[Ansteorra] Beating a dead kitten

Patrick R tex_yankee2004 at yahoo.com
Thu Jul 19 18:05:02 PDT 2012 



From: Don Pieter <donpieter at yahoo.com>
To: Patrick R <tex_yankee2004 at yahoo.com>; "Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA,Inc." <ansteorra at lists.ansteorra.org> 
Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2012 7:06 PM
Subject: Re: [Ansteorra] Beating a dead kitten

Sorry you're not pulling me in. If you, Rose etc wish to keep repeating yourselves over and over and call it a conversation just to hear your own voices then go ahead but there is nothing new to add. 

Enjoy whipping the kittens. 

Pieter

Cave quid dicis, quando, et cui
Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 19, 2012, at 6:22 PM, Patrick R <tex_yankee2004 at yahoo.com> wrote:

> A discussion is very different from beating a dead kitten. If we were all in agreement and saying the same thing we would be beating a dead kitten. It seems like people who want this discussion to end they have a closed mind either one way or another. Some have said that further discussion will not change minds either one way or another. That could be very true but it is not the only purpose of discussion as it may also educate. I may not agree with you and you may not agree with me (meant in a general sense) but at least  I will be able to appreciate why someone believes something and hopefully they will learn why I think another way. We may not convince anyone but at least a mutual respect of opinions can develop. 
> 
> Dante
> 
> 
> From: Don Pieter <donpieter at yahoo.com>
> To: "Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA, Inc." <ansteorra at lists.ansteorra.org> 
> Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2012 4:43 PM
> Subject: [Ansteorra] Beating a dead kitten
> 
> Discussion? Or beating a dead kitten? This is the second time this year that this topic was brought up and it has gone the same way both time with the exact same people on the pro and con sides. 
> 
> The bod asked for your input. My inbox didn't. 
> 
> Take any angle at this you want but you're not going to change minds one way or the other on this list. 
> 
> Any "discussion" about this kitten after this will solely be looked at as people wanting to hear themselves talk for no other reason than to enjoy the sound of their own voice. 
> 
> So start your letters to the bod and please stop beating this dead kitten. 
> 
> Thank you
> Pieter 
> 
> 
> Cave quid dicis, quando, et cui
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Jul 19, 2012, at 4:32 PM, Salvador Ordoñez <salvadorthespaniard at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> The list is a place for discussion. 
>> 
>> Derek Harris (via iPhone)
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Jul 19, 2012, at 4:28 PM, David Brown <lddevin03 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Don Pieter and myself asked earlier for this thread to stop.
>>> 
>>> HL Devin
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> ________________________________
>>> From: "charlescalhoun at sbcglobal.net" <charlescalhoun at sbcglobal.net>
>>> To: Angus MacKnochard <glnn_jhn at yahoo.com>; "Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA,Inc." <ansteorra at lists.ansteorra.org> 
>>> Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2012 2:25 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Ansteorra] Stop Eating; I'm Full!
>>> 
>>> Thank you I was hoping some one would suggest an end to this thread.                                          Lady Arabella from Eldern :)
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On Jul 19, 2012, at 4:08 PM, Angus MacKnochard <glnn_jhn at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> But we are forced to participate.
>>>> 100+ emails a day I have to sort thru and delete.
>>>> 
>>>> If you are still needing/wanting to discuss it, 
>>>> 
>>>> Reply only to those that are still discussing it,
>>>> Make your own list dedicated to this subject
>>>> what ever you want, there are ways to take it off the main list and still carry on the conversation. thats part of the beauty of this series of tubes
>>>> 
>>>> please remember that not everyone here has time for this volume of emails. and those on digest are getting overloaded.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> thanks
>>>> Angus MacKnochard Bagadur
>>>> ANDA GDH
>>>> KSCA
>>>> CSS LXVIII, 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> snerta er vald
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> ________________________________
>>>>> From: Bill Tait <arwemakere at gmail.com>
>>>>> To: "Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA, Inc." <ansteorra at lists.ansteorra.org> 
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2012 4:00 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Ansteorra] Stop Eating; I'm Full!
>>>>> 
>>>>> Great, now I'm hungry again.
>>>>> 
>>>>> William
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 1:50 PM, Rose <rose_welch at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>> I will never understand the calls for others to end a conversation because you're tired of it. That seems akin to asking someone else to stop eating because I'm full.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> A real world equivalent would be a conversation in an event hall. If I get bored or upset with one of those conversations, I would never ask the other participants to stop discussing it. Instead, I would simply not participate in that conversation any more.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> It's even easier online, because I can simply click that delete button rather than having to just pretend not to hear the other conversations.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> In short, I understand that some of you might be full, but the rest of us aren't done with our meal yet. Please respect our right to continue this conversation. Thank you.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> ~Lady Rose de la Rose
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> *              *              *              *              *              *              *              *              *              *              *              *              *
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Ars longa, vita brevis, occasio praeceps, experimentum periculosum, iudicium difficile. ~Hippocrates
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> ________________________________
>>>>>>> From: Alma Danks <wenchalma at yahoo.com>
>>>>>>> To: "Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA, Inc." <ansteorra at lists.ansteorra.org>
>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2012 3:33 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Ansteorra] Same-Gender Consort Proposal
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Oh my, I can't take this anymore. My e-mail is filled with this topic. Life is about change, I'm not sure how I feel about this, but I know that there isn't much we can do about it. I will support the crown, as long as they serve the kingdom. But I don't believe this conversation is helping anyone. The SCA is composed of folks from different cultures, religions and beliefs. We will never all agree on topics, but should respect each others decisions. We are family.
>>>>>>> 
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