[Ansteorra] Regarding Fund Raising
ansteorra at haraldr.drakkar.org
Thu Oct 25 07:23:37 PDT 2012
I have to agree with Armand here. The litmus test for inurement ends when SCA funds are not
involved. As the ansteorra.org server is indeed paid for by the kingdom, the question could be
raised that it involves sca funds and would therefore be subject to inurement rules, however,
this mailing list (and the others that are hosted on ansteorra.org) are not setup for the
private benefit of any individual. It's for the benefit of all Ansteorrans and the other lists
are benefiting other groups of recipients. Therefore, in my educated opinion, there is no
inurement involving SCA funds at play here.
The place where people in the SCA get into trouble is if they lend the SCA name to a fundraising
effort. I've not seen that happen anywhere lately, though I've seen it in the past.
My understanding is the SCA, or a branch, can indeed hold a fundraiser to benefit any other IRS
recognized 501(C) non-profit charitable organization and run those funds through their branch
A member (or members) of a branch, can hold a fundraiser to benefit an individual or family as
long as there is no implication that the contributions to the fundraiser in either cash or
material are in any way being made to the SCA, Inc and as long as all funds so collected never
touch an SCA, Inc controlled account.
Haraldr Bassi, Bjornsborg
(who helped write some of these rules in a past Excehquers Handbook update).
On 10/22/12 12:04 PM, dragonetti at generich.com wrote:
> This entire thread seems to me to be straining over gnats.
> Someone, somewhere, finds the use of the list to call for off-topic
> financial assistance to be particularly distasteful. I applaud the concern
> for the organization's non-profit status and care given against providing
> personal financial benefit to individuals. However, in this recent call, no
> *SCA monies* will be used to benefit a specific individual. The IRS is not
> gonna give a rats-A about it. One could try to make an argument out of SCA
> monies going to support the technology that makes the communication, and
> thus the request, possible, but please; this is another example of the
> mundane world of legal liability, butt-covering maneuvers and ham-stringing
> of common sense and courtesy that I personally find much more distasteful
> and detrimental to what makes the Society attractive in the first place. A
> desire for chivalry and honor so lacking in the modern world.
> If we have evolved to the point that we cannot help our friends or ask for
> help, then who wants to be part of that?
> My apologies to any who might feel personally attacked by my comments here,
> that is certainly not my intent.
> My two pence,
> Baron Armand Dragonetti
> (Reminder: My advice is only worth what you paid for it. :-)
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Bill Tait
>> Sent: Monday, October 22, 2012 11:35 AM
>> To: Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA, Inc.
>> Subject: Re: [Ansteorra] Regarding Fund Raising
>> Now would that now also preclude me for asking for a ride from Houston
>> to BAM?
>> I would personally benefit from such, and quasi-financially as well
>> (save money on a car rental).
>> Another question that comes to mind is this email list "registered" as
>> an _Official_ form of communication? Meaning, is this the equivalent of
>> a Kingdom Newsletter? I can certainly understand not having private
>> fundraisers / askings for help advertised in the Kingdom
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