[Ansteorra] Heavy commanders for Gulf

[Zach Most]

Charles can and will never take the crown we all know this
On Feb 1, 2013 3:10 PM, "Pat Mullins" <paedrics at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Actually, the son of a Spencer is second in line...
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>  From: Peter Holland <pholland64 at gmail.com>
> To: "Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA, Inc." <ansteorra at lists.ansteorra.org>
> Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 9:23 PM
> Subject: Re: [Ansteorra] OT: Queen Elizabeth II - is NOT the rightful heir
> to the throne of England
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> my only comment they do not go back far enough
> how is Edward III legit if his farther only loved men
> Edward III is a Mortimer
> so bastards abound
> at the end of the day it means very little Elizabeth Windsor is Queen
> and a son of the Spencer line is next in line
> so yeah war of the roses
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> On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 9:06 PM, Tim McDaniel <tmcd at panix.com> wrote:
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> > On Thu, 31 Jan 2013, Hillary Greenslade <hillaryrg at yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Had to share, stubbled on this YouTube video of a documentary from May,
> >> 2013,
> >> titled: 'Queen Elizabeth II - is NOT the rightful heir to the throne of
> >> England'.
> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?**v=z5fIwLo1Trs<
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5fIwLo1Trs>
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> > My first thought was "Do we have to spray for Jacobites again?".
> >
> > I am NOT trying to slag you, Hillary!  It's fine that you mention it.
> > The problem is that he's wrong in practice, and since practice
> > actually controls royal successions, ...
> >
> >  Runs under an hour
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> >
> > Luckily, Googling quickly provided his theory, so I don't have to
> > watch all 48:18.  It's actually an infestation of mutated
> > quasi-Ricardians.
> >
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/**Alternative_successions_of_**
> > the_English_crown<
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alternative_successions_of_the_English_crown>
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> > And http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/**Edward_IV_of_England#**Controversy<
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_IV_of_England#Controversy>has
> > rebuttals.  "Under English common law a child born to a married woman
> > is presumed to be her husband's, although the husband may contest the
> > presumption.  Also, even if he were illegitimate, Edward still had a
> > direct (albeit legally barred) blood-claim to the throne through his
> > mother Cecily, who was a great-granddaughter of Edward III through
> > John of Gaunt and his illegitimate daughter (Cecily's mother) Joan
> > Beaufort, Countess of Westmorland."  And even whether the barring was
> > legal and the illegitimacy legal is questionable.
> >
> > Certainly in practice, Edward IV and his heirs by birth and/or law
> > have usually had the overwhelming acceptance of the people in
> > practice, which is really the true source of monarchy, despite Tony
> > Robinson's nonsense of "The monarchy rests entirely on blood and
> > inheritance".  I am minded of the motton on the inside of the crowns
> > of Caid: "You rule because they believe".  It could just as justly be
> > engraved inside the crowns of the UK.
> >
> > Danihel Lincolnia
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